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7 years ago
"leef;c-1586706" wrote:
used a basic with def down 3 times total in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1a5hqTKYUI&t=430s
used a basic with def down 5 times total in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ebER5Sm1ok&t=134s
Probably too "elitist" for you, the selfproclaimed teacher (wich was a nice touch), but it does show how little R2's zeta comes into play, even if it does prevent the negative effects of using basics with def down. I'm still going to test that when i get the chance, i've no problem conceding if it turns out you were correct about that.
JTR's lead CD reduction is actually way better than you give it credit for, it pairs really well with bb8. The TMR is also way better than you give it credit for, especially combined with the CD reduction.
Saying R2's zeta is the most important/effective zeta on the whole team for p1 is just laughable. It's extra funny because you're so arrogant ;)
Yeah, I am the teacher. You didn't know anything about what R2's zeta was bringing to the fight. Test whenever you want. I find it arrogant as hell that you're arguing with me about any of this without having done any testing or research yourself.
Everything I have stated about R2's zeta is what I know to be true based on testing.
And you're right. Posting someone else's video is too elitist for me. Between BB's assist and the lack of cooldown reduction in this phase of the raid. I end up attacking Nihilus with a basic with defense down on them every 3 or 4 attacks. Like I said, I always attack Nihilus. I get better damage doing so than ever focusing on the adds. I call it elitist because it is thinking whatever strategy is currently being used is the "best" strategy. The fact that those people only attacked 3 or 5 times is irrelevant to me. It says to me they probably wasted far too many actions not attacking Nihilus. See with R2 in the comp there's no reason NOT to attack Nihlus, because he neuters the majority of that effect. Sure you still take more damage when you get attacked, and it guarantees the cooldown increase from Nihilus, but those aren't the parts that are trying to be avoided.
To put it another way: If they are only attacking Nihilus with a basic while having defense down 3-5 times an attempt, they're doing it wrong. (You see what I did there?). Of course I'm joking by taking this tact, but strategy is everything. How could you possibly know you are using the best strategy when you didn't even know what all of your team composition was bringing to the table?
Leaving the adds up instead of ever targeting them does many great things for your composition: Increases the amount of tm you gain because more targets can get exposes up; Lets you not waste attacks on them thereby increasing the damage you do to Nihilus; The fact that they hit your protection means doing so doesn't significantly impact your survivability and your healing immunity means it doesn't significantly impact your damage; Gives more targets for BB8 to counterattack generating more tm by landing exposes.
People's strategy's are based around avoiding hitting Nihilus with a basic with defense down. I think that's foolish. R2 counteracts the need to do so. So someone using a subpar strategy (in my opinion) that doesn't take advantage of everything a zeta brings to the table doesn't count as a good example of what that zeta DOES bring to the table.
If you want to post videos following that strategy, then count all the times they attacked an add instead of Nihilus too.
Come on man, you are the ignorant one here. Why can't you just admit it instead of trying to insist that I am?
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