Shard drop rate is toooooo low :(

"DarjeloSalas;c-2393919" wrote:

Alternatively, the player base could join together and crowd-source an enormous data set that tracks and verifies the drop rates. This has happened, more than once, and on each occasion the shard drop rate came out at around 33%.

It will be difficult to convince you if you genuinely think that your thought / opinion on the drop rates is equally as valid as tens of thousands of data points from across the community. Observed fact is not the same as opinion.

Have you read up on confirmation bias yet?

Then in a way, you have supported my opinion.

It is required to have a looooot of data to get that 33% means that it is required to have a looooot of refreshing the node...so, the one who doesnt refresh gets only (0/5).

My experience says so and other too...
Have you seen all my screenshots above?

"TVF;c-2393483" wrote:
I did 25 sims on nuLeia today

0/5 to start

Then 3/5 (6), 2/5 (4), 2/5 (4), 2/5 (4)

18 shards on 25 sims? Yes please.

"DarjeloSalas;c-2393924" wrote:

You get:

55 daily from carbonite
60 from completing daily activities <<< i try to verify this tomorrow. All i know is 1 or 2 crystals per quest (like do 1 galactic war, do 1 battle arena, do 6 light/dark battle etc and 25 or so as the final prize.)
25 from completing Galactic War
5-100 from the daily activity prize box <<< what?

If you can push into top 50 in fleet you’ll get another 50 a day on top of that. <<< no i dont. Ive been trying but still cant.

Doesnt matter...what matter is to me is i am always broke (crystal and credit wise)...i try to save, but somehow i cant...

So, i presume others in my shoes have the same problem too...
Refreshing the node is way beyond us...is like having a smart phone in a stone age...

Or please, any F2P players who refresh their node, please give us your strategy at hoarding crystals...thanks.

"GegeGerard24;c-2393928" wrote:


My experience says so and other too...
Have you seen all my screenshots above?

Today I got 16 shards on my first 5 sims of Bastilla (Fallen). I refreshed and got 0 shards. Looks like I've disproved your theory. Sorry.

"DarjeloSalas;c-2393931" wrote:

Are you trolling?

Hundreds of players contributed to these studies. Do you genuinely believe they all got 0/5 then after refreshing got lots of shards?

I know for a fact TVF doesn’t always get 0/5 before refreshing, and I know that’s not what happens to me either. Or you. It might happen occasionally, but it’s madness to draw a conclusion off such scant evidence.

Come back in a week and tell me you are still getting 0/5 on all of your farming attempts. I’ll take screenshots of my 2 active farms as well.

Lol...this is not a matter of "always" or "not always"...
Of course its not...lol...

It is the matter of the frequency...

Ive had 3 nodes yesterday ALONE (and ypu are talking about in a week...lol) which produced (0/5), see previous post (with screenshot) please, b4 judging me anything...lol...

How many data are we talking about? Thousands?...millions?

Lets say...1000 datas alone...
It means i need 1000 days to get close to 330 shards (33%), right? (Since i dont refresh, i stick to only 5 allowed hard battles everyday)

The ones who refresh 4 times a day can get that amount in only 250 days...

You see right? The one who doesnt refresh gets those 67% of (0/5) in 670 days!
No wonder right, if i get that often?

Or you dont see that?

"DMG_SW;c-2393936" wrote:

Today I got 16 shards on my first 5 sims of Bastilla (Fallen). I refreshed and got 0 shards. Looks like I've disproved your theory. Sorry.

As the one above you (the one commented above your comment) have said, small data is not enough...lol (i am just quoting his cmt)

BTW...read my cmt obove this about the frequency.

"DMG_SW;c-2393936" wrote:

"GegeGerard24;c-2393928" wrote:


My experience says so and other too...
Have you seen all my screenshots above?

Today I got 16 shards on my first 5 sims of Bastilla (Fallen). I refreshed and got 0 shards. Looks like I've disproved your theory. Sorry.

Or you're a whale.

"GegeGerard24;c-2393937" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2393931" wrote:

Are you trolling?

Hundreds of players contributed to these studies. Do you genuinely believe they all got 0/5 then after refreshing got lots of shards?

I know for a fact TVF doesn’t always get 0/5 before refreshing, and I know that’s not what happens to me either. Or you. It might happen occasionally, but it’s madness to draw a conclusion off such scant evidence.

Come back in a week and tell me you are still getting 0/5 on all of your farming attempts. I’ll take screenshots of my 2 active farms as well.

Lol...this is not a matter of "always" or "not always"...
Of course its not...lol...

It is the matter of the frequency...

Ive had 3 nodes yesterday ALONE (and ypu are talking about in a week...lol) which produced (0/5), see previous post (with screenshot) please, b4 judging me anything...lol...

How many data are we talking about? Thousands?...millions?

Lets say...1000 datas alone...
It means i need 1000 days to get close to 330 shards (33%), right? (Since i dont refresh, i stick to only 5 allowed hard battles everyday)

The ones who refresh 4 times a day can get that amount in only 250 days...

You see right? The one who dont refresh gets those 67% of (0/5) in 670 days!
No wonder right, if i get that often?

Or you dont see that?

You need 1000 battles at 33% drop rate. Simming 5/day means 200 days, assuming a perfect probability result.
Refreshing once a day should cut that to 100 days.

Refresh what you can afford, and build up your crystal income.

"GegeGerard24;c-2393937" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2393931" wrote:

Are you trolling?

Hundreds of players contributed to these studies. Do you genuinely believe they all got 0/5 then after refreshing got lots of shards?

I know for a fact TVF doesn’t always get 0/5 before refreshing, and I know that’s not what happens to me either. Or you. It might happen occasionally, but it’s madness to draw a conclusion off such scant evidence.

Come back in a week and tell me you are still getting 0/5 on all of your farming attempts. I’ll take screenshots of my 2 active farms as well.

Lol...this is not a matter of "always" or "not always"...
Of course its not...lol...

It is the matter of the frequency...

Ive had 3 nodes yesterday ALONE (and ypu are talking about in a week...lol) which produced (0/5), see previous post (with screenshot) please, b4 judging me anything...lol...

How many data are we talking about? Thousands?...millions?

Lets say...1000 datas alone...
It means i need 1000 days to get close to 330 shards (33%), right? (Since i dont refresh, i stick to only 5 allowed hard battles everyday)

The ones who refresh 4 times a day can get that amount in only 250 days...

You see right? The one who doesnt refresh gets those 67% of (0/5) in 670 days!
No wonder right, if i get that often?

Or you dont see that?

I’ve been farming 50R-T without refreshes for about 6 months now and had a drop rate between 30 and 35%.
Lots of theories were thrown out there concerning drop rates since the beginning of the game, this one included. They were all disproved by hard data collected by players.

And about crystal: you will get 150 crystals a day on average just with gac. On average, because there are daily crystal, end of round, end of event, end of gac. You need to manage them accordingly. At your level of play, you might not need to refresh nodes and only refresh various energies. But you definitely could if you wanted to.

There are right and wrong answers in math. It's not opinion.

You are wrong.

Edit: never mind, there’s no need to pile on.