Since Rey likely isn't a Jedi...

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"ViktorNoland;c-1016217" wrote:
Apparently, Kylo Ren has a "Placeholder" tag (I fuzzily remember seeing it) according to his page on swgoh.gg.

I'm pretty sure Kylo used to have a Sith tag before all the recent reworks, so it's not so much that he has a placeholder tag, as he was coded with spots for one more tag than he actually has, so it's empty.

Kylo never had the sith tag.

Funny how I remember seeing it on him then, isn't it?

It is...especially since it's never been the case.

Says you. I saw it on him. Maybe it was added, and then removed. But he had it.

He was added to the game 12/17/2015
Here is the link to the character strategy for kylo posted the same day

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/1843/character-strategies-captain-phasma-kylo-ren-and-first-order-officer

Here is the image from that link.


And another user submitted image from 01/28/16
http://imgur.com/DUKKOX9
http://i.imgur.com/DUKKOX9.png

I don't have images, but I do have a good memory. I saw it on him sometime between December and February.

There's no point discussing this. I remember it.

Does he have it now? No
Did he have it when added? No, your pictures prove that.

It doesn't prove that he NEVER had it. I saw him with it. They added it, and then removed it. That's why he has a blank tag. It's not in preparation for something else. It was just poor removal.

Ah yes, who needs photographic evidence when you have memory of something from over a year ago. If you believe something to be true, it must be right? Physical proof and facts shy in the face of subjective beliefs.

Over a year ago? Did you even read the post you are responding to?

I said he had it between 2-4 months ago...
Over a year ago is FAR outside the time frame I am talking about. What good is photographic evidence of something outside of the realm of discussion?

None, that's what's good.

And AGAIN, I remember what I remember. Once in a great while I misremember, but it's rare enough that I will take it over inapplicable information every time.

I read december through february and naturally assumed you meant 2015-16 because kylo obviously never had the sith tag this year. People would either be in an uproar about him not getting the bonuses from sith leader abilities like zaul and palpatine, or getting the bonuses then having them removed.

As far as I can tell they removed it from him either right when all the other Sith got reworked, or when they reworked him.

Not sure which, but I'm certain it is one or the other.

So not only do I remember it, it makes much more sense than EA/CG writing in a placeholder tag for him. They've never done that before, why would they for him? When have they ever planned a rework in the original scripting before? That makes no sense. No, it's because they removed a tag from him (the Sith tag).

None of that explains the lack of any threads complaining about a Kylo nerf. If CG removed any tag from any current toon, there would be chaos in the forums.

Unless no one ever noticed it getting added, which is entirely plausible considering that everyone says he never had it to begin with. The very first thing I noticed when they reworked the Sith was that Kylo Ren no longer had the Sith tag.

Saying that it didn't happen because there was no public outcry is the very definition of a stretch.

I think you underestimate player's capability to notice very small things in this game. However, a toon suddenly not receiving bonuses from a leader ability is not a small thing. People would notice a nerf like that.

You're probably aware of something called false memory psychology (more commonly known as the "Mandela Effect") where people are certain they remember something a particular way even though their memory is wrong. This is evident whenever people misquote Vader by saying "Luke, I am your father" when the line is really "No, I am your father", or the whole Berenstein/stain Bears thing. I realize that simply stating this isn't proof that you're experiencing it, however since you lack any evidence to support your claim, and fail to directly counter mine, i think this is likely in your case.

If someone got used to having a leader bonus and lost it that would be one thing, but getting used to not having a leader bonus. then it being available for a very short period of time could easily go unnoticed. If you get used to something not being there, it's easy not to notice when it shows up briefly.

I am aware of the Mandela Effect, which is interesting.

The only evidence I have is my memory. I have no interest in countering anyone on anything ever. What I will do is fight tooth and nail against anyone who tries to speak down to me. You are not, but there is plenty of evidence of my being less than congenital to anyone who tries to show off by demeaning me having it turned right around in their faces.

So, yeah. with lack of evidence is fine to say you don't believe me. But to try and say I'm wrong despite any evidence one way or the other is another matter altogether. I'd actually prefer to be wrong more often than I am. Then people wouldn't accuse me of being a know-it-all for being knowledgeable, and I wouldn't get so irate when ignorant people try and correct me. Again, I am not saying this is you, but it happens far too often.