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ryanmoench155's avatar
7 years ago

Sion useless in sith raid

Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.
  • "Moechenche;d-161817" wrote:
    Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.


    Don't forget Visas Marr. The Gamechangers were keep telling that she will be important for the sith raid.
    Turns out she preforms completely and uttterly underwhelming.

    Burning the money would have more use, because that could heat up the house. :smirk:
  • "First_but_66_Order;c-1485686" wrote:
    "Moechenche;d-161817" wrote:
    Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.


    Don't forget Visas Marr. The Gamechangers were keep telling that she will be important for the sith raid.
    Turns out she preforms completely and uttterly underwhelming.

    Burning the money would have more use, because that could heat up the house. :smirk:


    There is a bug report and hopefully she will start to target what we think its the "correct toon". she seemed like a great raid toon and just meh now.

    "Moechenche;d-161817" wrote:
    Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.


    There is a discussion where the tactic was suggested to attack the adds to avoid the stacking tenacity until you get the desired debuff, then make your move before she takes a turn.
  • I did get his hatred off once against nihilus. He got several hits in at around 30k a pop (without getting pain to stick). Unfortunately, he didn’t get a revive because I was a round late on will. Had I timed it better he would have done some legit damage.

    He really needs the zeta to accelerate hatred. Unfortunately my next is Veers, so I’m gonna have to wait a while.
  • "First_but_66_Order;c-1485686" wrote:
    "Moechenche;d-161817" wrote:
    Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.


    Don't forget Visas Marr. The Gamechangers were keep telling that she will be important for the sith raid.
    Turns out she preforms completely and uttterly underwhelming.

    Burning the money would have more use, because that could heat up the house. :smirk:


    Visas works well in Phase 1 on a Rey team. In heroic I've seen people do around 8% with her, but who knows now.
  • "Moechenche;c-1485802" wrote:
    "First_but_66_Order;c-1485686" wrote:
    "Moechenche;d-161817" wrote:
    Why is Darth Sion worthless in the new sith raid? He can never apply pain to any of the bosses. It doesn't make sense that a new toon is useless in the new raid.


    Don't forget Visas Marr. The Gamechangers were keep telling that she will be important for the sith raid.
    Turns out she preforms completely and uttterly underwhelming.

    Burning the money would have more use, because that could heat up the house. :smirk:


    Visas works well in Phase 1 on a Rey team. In heroic I've seen people do around 8% with her, but who knows now.


    But Rey could do 8% (around 10 mil) without Visas in part1, so I don't think Visas helped that team much
  • Vice_Torn's avatar
    Vice_Torn
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    The issue is many toons do damage before they add debuffs... Meaning the bosses allways have at least +50%tenacity

    This could be solved if the tendacity bonus was applied when the boss suffers a negative effect outside of their turn...


  • with vader lead, he did well for me (on an empire team, about 2 mil total, t6 p1). i did get his debuff to land a couple tmes though. i also used barris