Sith Triumvirate Raid Feedback Thread

I don't think being FTP and become competitive player are realistic - not just in this game.

Even if you spend reasonable time and money to be competitive, "reasonable" time spent with "reasonable" money spent are open to interpretation and so is "competitiveness" in this game.

For me, I am not purely FTP nor am I competitive - unless you think getting under rank 50 in arena and getting under rank 40 in ship competitive.

Back to sith raid, stay on target.

Back to Sith Raid though, not just the prizes for non-heoric tier but the mechanic of the game design itself is broken.

- Bosses with supet high tenacity and mechanics to prevent using other toons apart from selected few.
- One of which being JTR - which has horrible way to get her to farm Vets to get 7* - which in turn are in Cantina 16 energy nodes.

So, I don't think it's just sith raid but things that builds up and series of decisions made from management and producers of CG are all missteps - unless having the backlash and non-whales players drainage is the desired goal.

Or maybe this game's life cycle managers decided non-whales and long time players ( elders who don't spend enough $$ on game) are nuisances and decided to alienate and purge them.

If that is the goal, I would say they achieve it.

"CG_SBCrumb;d-169517" wrote:

• What tier or tiers did you play?
  
• What GP is your Guild that is attempting the raid?
  
• What teams you did you attempt the raid with?
  
• What part of the raid motivated or demotivated you to continue trying?
  
• What about the raid did you enjoy? What did you dislike about the raid?
  

1) Mostly T5, some t4s to get used to it
2) Almost 80M
3) We tried like every team possible and due to my late response some people in my guild already have the detonators team for P1, we have some JTR and we have some people which farmed or is farming imp troopers. Still no chex: it's an annoying and difficult team to build, no one wants to be forced to build such an exploit team to beat a raid. One should be able to beat a raid with TEAMS and not be forced to build these teams which are clearly an exploit found by players to do more damage, no one believes that you had the chex mix team in your heads while designing the raid. I know that every raid has teams that are more suitable and teams that are less appropriate. This raid has teams YOU CAN'T USE for the whole raid, like clones for example. They are useless in every phase.
4) For the time being, I'm almost totally ignoring this raid. I just intervene when it is fundamental, the rewards are not even worth the effort and the frustration. The score gap between those having Rey and those not having her is just ridiculous. And I'm not the only one, most players feel frustrated and see their past efforts as useless in this new raid. DN recovering protection, stealing buffs and oneshotting toons with his unpredictable tm and cool down reduction, traya simply annihilating every possible team, Sion oneshotting 100k+ health tanks and every boss being basically immune to debuffs and tm removal are just ridiculous, there are no viable solutions to this. Only the guilds which are composed by shoppers and whales or the guilds playing since day one can think about attempting the heroic and they're not even sure about the outcome. For now they're not so much, but we'll soon have all the arenas dominated by the players which managed to unlock traya, which happen to be (what a coincidence) the ones which foster CG economically or the ones which gave the game visibility in the first period.
5) The only thing I enjoyed about the raid is that it's a new raid. For the rest, I find it more frustrating than challenging, because the solutions to it are quite clear but they're extremely costy (in terms of currencies, time or both) or even locked behind the paywall. I appreciate that you made a very hard raid for the ones asking for a new and "superior" one, but you can't ignore the fact that this raid has been added to cradle the huge players that are around since day one, while it frustrates everyone below 2-2.5M gp. Usually, game developers make things added just to make shoppers happy more subtle. This is too clearly a thing made ad-hoc for paying users.

"SebPovic;c-1567659" wrote:
48M GP guild here. Tried T4 a few times, now we go back to T3. 4 Days of P1 straight is just too much, people are getting frustrated.

Our teams mainly consist of Rebels, Imp, FO, Phönix und a few NS here and there.

Can i be honest. Im 1.1 million gp so id say id be fairly typical to your membera. I can easily pull 4% in phase 1 with 5 runs.

If it takes 4 days to do phase 1 your people arent really making an effort and thats fine but dont blame the raid.

"Gold_Leader_KY;c-1567662" wrote:

"CoastalJames;c-1567571" wrote:

"Dabro112;c-1567521" wrote:
If you were active daily Palpatine and Vader should have been 7* when the reworks came out.

If you spent time then.

In this game - you either have to spend time, or you have to spend money, to succeed.

Which is great for all parties.


Except for those that live in fantasy-lad and want to succeed without spending neither time nor money.

sort of. it is great when the time is reasonable. and that's the point. Pseudo FTP don't mind working. we mind when the work is literally impossible to complete while having an actual life beyond this game. lets say 7 arena matches, 7 ship matches, its HAAT day or pit, Sith raid 5 daily battles, do all other collecting activities at least every 6 hours, sign in for the extra 45 energy that doesn't correspond to that 6 hour schedule, if you bought any mods today see if what you got can improve one of your toons, chat with your guild. its just too much. and to compete, you have to do all of that or you fall behind. and the game is no fun when you can't compete.

I'm FTP and particpate fully.

I probably spend 15 minutes a day on the game. Maybe 20? Definitely no more than 25.

That leaves me with at least 23 hours and 35 minutes per day in which to have an "actual life".

"CoastalJames;c-1567807" wrote:

"Gold_Leader_KY;c-1567662" wrote:

"CoastalJames;c-1567571" wrote:

"Dabro112;c-1567521" wrote:
If you were active daily Palpatine and Vader should have been 7* when the reworks came out.

If you spent time then.

In this game - you either have to spend time, or you have to spend money, to succeed.

Which is great for all parties.


Except for those that live in fantasy-lad and want to succeed without spending neither time nor money.

sort of. it is great when the time is reasonable. and that's the point. Pseudo FTP don't mind working. we mind when the work is literally impossible to complete while having an actual life beyond this game. lets say 7 arena matches, 7 ship matches, its HAAT day or pit, Sith raid 5 daily battles, do all other collecting activities at least every 6 hours, sign in for the extra 45 energy that doesn't correspond to that 6 hour schedule, if you bought any mods today see if what you got can improve one of your toons, chat with your guild. its just too much. and to compete, you have to do all of that or you fall behind. and the game is no fun when you can't compete.

I'm FTP and particpate fully.

I probably spend 15 minutes a day on the game. Maybe 20? Definitely no more than 25.

That leaves me with at least 23 hours and 35 minutes per day in which to have an "actual life".

that makes no sense. you didn't mention the sith raid which can't be done in 15m. by compete i mean you finish in the top 5 of both arena's every day at level 85.

"DoOrDoNot;c-1567677" wrote:
I don't think being FTP and become competitive player are realistic - not just in this game.

Even if you spend reasonable time and money to be competitive, "reasonable" time spent with "reasonable" money spent are open to interpretation and so is "competitiveness" in this game.

For me, I am not purely FTP nor am I competitive - unless you think getting under rank 50 in arena and getting under rank 40 in ship competitive.

if you don't support FTP/low spenders then there is nobody for the whales to play against. they need both to make a good game of this type.

"Gold_Leader_KY;c-1567819" wrote:

"DoOrDoNot;c-1567677" wrote:
I don't think being FTP and become competitive player are realistic - not just in this game.

Even if you spend reasonable time and money to be competitive, "reasonable" time spent with "reasonable" money spent are open to interpretation and so is "competitiveness" in this game.

For me, I am not purely FTP nor am I competitive - unless you think getting under rank 50 in arena and getting under rank 40 in ship competitive.

if you don't support FTP/low spenders then there is nobody for the whales to play against. they need both to make a good game of this type.

Start another thread dude, stop with the F2P, multiple people have already tried to get this back onto the Sith Raid issue.....

Specifically the time vs. rewards - which I think much of the issue. But, the time part of the equation is, to me, where the "unfun" aspect of the raid really rubs raw. Just these long slog fests and nothing happens. I have all the toons for all the recommended phases, I can do the damage needed... but it's a PITA and takes forever - now I just auto for whatever the team gives me.... which then slows down the raid progress because everyone just hitting auto is not moving it along at the speed it needs to.

And, as I've said several time, we don't even have everyone hitting auto. With the rewards being terrible, it's not even worth leaving your phone on while 5 teams auto for you...

A response by Page 21 maybe?

Maybe a "hey we're reading and compiling, here are the ideas we're throwing around the office at CG. What you guys think?" or something...