Territory battles - Platoon deployment, epic fail

"jhbuchholz;c-1341665" wrote:
I don't understand why it's not valid. TB is end game content. End game players I've interacted with, and it's quite a few, aren't concerned about him being included. Can you explain to me why this isn't valid? I'm not understanding this, 'we can only get him one way so it's not fair' argument. You can only get Logray in the guild store so you have to complete raids to get him to 7*. A lot of raids. Why isn't he included in your argument?

Because he can just pay for Logray instead. Characters you have to pay for are just fine to him, only characters that you can't pay for are a problem. How dare they include something in end game content that you can't just whale for!?!?!?

"jhbuchholz;c-1341665" wrote:
I don't understand why it's not valid. TB is end game content. End game players I've interacted with, and it's quite a few, aren't concerned about him being included. Can you explain to me why this isn't valid? I'm not understanding this, 'we can only get him one way so it's not fair' argument. You can only get Logray in the guild store so you have to complete raids to get him to 7*. A lot of raids. Why isn't he included in your argument?

1) TB is end game content, because raids are not they are not difficult or important, is what i am guessing you are trying to say there. TB requires massive guild coordination, obtaining several characters and developing them, deciding which characters to be used for what, or which players focus on certain parts of the phase.

It is the same in raids, require massive guild coordination, if some players have trouble in a phase, then other stronger players deal with that phase, while you are obtaining and developing characters that will help you in raids, particularly HAAT.

Raids are as difficult as TB, TB is the next tier of difficult game mode, that is all. Both game modes reward you, with gear and shards that are exclusive to those modes.


2) Logray? As you yourself have pointed out, he can be obtained in the guild store, just like you can obtain shards of characters in shipments, packs, cantina store, arena store, galactic war store, fleet store and TB store. You generate currency for almost all of these stores every day, all characters can be obtained through either farming nodes or currency for the stores, or through real life money via crystals which you use in the shipments or the chromium packs.

But not raid han, general kenobi and hermit yoda, they are exclusive, not at all farmable or can not be bought, can only be obtained through massive guild coordinated grinding.

ALL other characters are easily obtainable, just takes time and patience, the 3 aforementioned are very difficult and time-consuming to obtain.

Lower lvl guilds struggle too much in TB, to the point where members quit the game, on account of the fact that TB takes too much of their time and focus, the game is no longer fun for them, raid han and kenobi can alleviate the pressure. Plus, as i have said before they are exclusive, because of these reasons, your argument is not valid.

"GloriousFool;c-1341729" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1341665" wrote:
I don't understand why it's not valid. TB is end game content. End game players I've interacted with, and it's quite a few, aren't concerned about him being included. Can you explain to me why this isn't valid? I'm not understanding this, 'we can only get him one way so it's not fair' argument. You can only get Logray in the guild store so you have to complete raids to get him to 7*. A lot of raids. Why isn't he included in your argument?

1) TB is end game content, because raids are not they are not difficult or important, is what i am guessing you are trying to say there. TB requires massive guild coordination, obtaining several characters and developing them, deciding which characters to be used for what, or which players focus on certain parts of the phase.

It is the same in raids, require massive guild coordination, if some players have trouble in a phase, then other stronger players deal with that phase, while you are obtaining and developing characters that will help you in raids, particularly HAAT.

Raids are as difficult as TB, TB is the next tier of difficult game mode, that is all. Both game modes reward you, with gear and shards that are exclusive to those modes.


2) Logray? As you yourself have pointed out, he can be obtained in the guild store, just like you can obtain shards of characters in shipments, packs, cantina store, arena store, galactic war store, fleet store and TB store. You generate currency for almost all of these stores every day, all characters can be obtained through either farming nodes or currency for the stores, or through real life money via crystals which you use in the shipments or the chromium packs.

But not raid han, general kenobi and hermit yoda, they are exclusive, not at all farmable or can not be bought, can only be obtained through massive guild coordinated grinding.

ALL other characters are easily obtainable, just takes time and patience, the 3 aforementioned are very difficult and time-consuming to obtain.

Lower lvl guilds struggle too much in TB, to the point where members quit the game, on account of the fact that TB takes too much of their time and focus, the game is no longer fun for them, raid han and kenobi can alleviate the pressure. Plus, as i have said before they are exclusive, because of these reasons, your argument is not valid.

If you say you have cls, you should be able to solo the heroic rancor, hence get a lot of shards. If you're playing for a year and still don't have Han, I'd suggest you find yourself a better guild

The Pit Raid is not end game content. I think that's the flaw in your argument. Tier 7 was designed and released when level 80 was the cap. Many people can solo it. Many people can solo it on auto. Many people can even solo it with less than 5 toons. The Tank Takedown Raid is also no longer end game content. It was designed and released when gear tier XI was the max. Several people have shown that with a strong roster it can be run by one person (using several teams). Both of these have been made substantially easier by the release of toons like Thrawn, BB-8, and CLS. TB is replaced them as end game so it is perfectly reasonable to expect that completion of these mid game raids is a prerequisite for mastery of TB. It's not meant for lower level guilds. This is why it doesn't unlock until level 65.

I'm not following your Logray reasoning either since without raids you only produce a couple hundred raid credits put day making Logray a multi year farm but I think continuing this half of the conversation might be a tangent.

"GreenGoblin96;c-1341744" wrote:
If you say you have cls, you should be able to solo the heroic rancor, hence get a lot of shards. If you're playing for a year and still don't have Han, I'd suggest you find yourself a better guild

Fair enough, and i have done that (finally got him to 6*, 7* no longer a dream).

"jhbuchholz;c-1341745" wrote:
The Pit Raid is not end game content. I think that's the flaw in your argument. Tier 7 was designed and released when level 80 was the cap. Many people can solo it. Many people can solo it on auto. Many people can even solo it with less than 5 toons. The Tank Takedown Raid is also no longer end game content. It was designed and released when gear tier XI was the max. Several people have shown that with a strong roster it can be run by one person (using several teams). Both of these have been made substantially easier by the release of toons like Thrawn, BB-8, and CLS. TB is replaced them as end game so it is perfectly reasonable to expect that completion of these mid game raids is a prerequisite for mastery of TB. It's not meant for lower level guilds. This is why it doesn't unlock until level 65.

You are like a broken record, TB is end game content, raids are not, so what? Does not mean that, raids are not as difficult. Let´s look at refuting santa claus: You explain to a child that santa can not be real, while the child argues for magic, you then explain every logical reason, the time it would take to travel around the world, chimneys, how many children in the world and so on and so forth.

The child adds flying reindeer and a magical sack... You see, the child has not picked apart your arguments, but simply added more magic to the argument, the child is essentially saying the same thing as before.

You have not added a new perspective or conclusion or whatever to the argument, you have essentially said the same thing as before... And about lower lvl guild thing, sure i forgot that low lvl guilds can not access TB, but guilds that can get fx 25 - 30 stars, many of them are struggling too much, as i mentioned many of those players have stopped playing, or are considering it, because of too much time and focus required. Again, raid han and kenobi can alleviate the pressure.

Not every player has a vast and developed roster.

Raids are not difficult. You're in the wrong guild. Han Solo in platoons is not a problem. Good luck with your crusade though Don Quixote.

Yes sure, and the world is flat, and lizzard people rule the world. Good luck with your quest to ignore real facts and sticking to your own alternative facts, cause there is not enough of that going around.

Han is the easiest farm in the game. Find a guild that raids every other day and you don’t have to spend a single resource to get him. He’s literally free.

I've presented several real facts and was meet with a story about Santa Clause. Not sure what else to tell you. Our guild got 30 stars last time and Hsn Solo in platoons wasn't an issue. As we progress it will be even less of an issue. Most in our guild have had him at 7 stars for months.

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"GloriousFool;c-1341761" wrote:

Not every player has a vast and developed roster.

I'm telling you, TB was designed for those who do. That's why only one guild has achieved 45 stars so far. Until your guild reaches 65 to 70m GP you're going to struggle with a half dozen or more things like Han Solo in platoons. But once you get there you'll look back and wonder why you made such a big deal of it.

If you don't want to believe that then that is your problem.

"Gul_Ski73;c-1338116" wrote:
Phase 6: Imperial Flank has a Rebels only mission, but platoons need a lot of Rebels, especially Phoenix Squad.. WTH?!?

(Hera, Ezra, Sabine, Kanan are good to use because they counter strike, dispell, and double up attacks...especially with NO pure rebel healers.)

Chirrut exists.