Territory War Ties [Merged]

"Drazz127;c-1368730" wrote:
They would be smart to give both guilds first place for their hard work in the event of a tie. They don't need any more riots so close together over rewards which aren't that much different.

Can’t.....guilds would collude and put in little to no effort to intentionally tie. You already have people at the top levels of the arena colluding with the other people on their shards to trade victories so they can all stay at the top and not drop into the next tier of ranks.

"Larkon_Adama79;c-1368826" wrote:
Why not just have the first team to clear the map Wins?

Wouldn’t be fair due to time zone differences.

As John_Matrix pointed out, successfully winning on defense should also award points, would make ties rare + people would actually need to think on what squads they want to use efficiently instead of zerging.

"Larkon_Adama79;c-1368826" wrote:
Why not just have the first team to clear the map Wins?

Because it is not a race and there are other factors in your why people can't race to finish a game like lif work time zones. Plus if u use lazy ways and still win or in this case tie u shouldn't be penalized cause the other team is more kitten but u both came to the same climax.

"Vos_Landeck;c-1368832" wrote:

"Drazz127;c-1368730" wrote:
They would be smart to give both guilds first place for their hard work in the event of a tie. They don't need any more riots so close together over rewards which aren't that much different.

Can’t.....guilds would collude and put in little to no effort to intentionally tie. You already have people at the top levels of the arena colluding with the other people on their shards to trade victories so they can all stay at the top and not drop into the next tier of ranks.

It doesn’t matter. Unless they change and reward for defensive wins, there will always be a tie. You are facing a similar GP guild. They will eventually have enough squads to finish it off. Especially anyone 100m and up in GP.

With the right strategy, I guild at 110m could tie the highest GP team. Just because they can use enough teams to blow through the battles.

https://i.imgur.com/9VexXuM.jpg

Why do we have less points in what should have been a tie?

Why can't EA/CG get anything in this game right before throwing it out there?

"Hannibal_Bexus;c-1368799" wrote:

"Chuybacca;c-1368785" wrote:
What about if you get one point for each toon that survives an attack? So they kill one, you get +4, they kill 3, you get +2, etc. that would make you strategize more and be near impossible to tie. It could be for survival on defense just the same. @CG_Kozispoon

+1
I like this idea

Sometimes the simplest solution is the best. I like it!

"Kreontas;c-1368765" wrote:
Yeah but then again if both got 1st place rewards wouldn’t everyone intentionally draw every time? It would be the best strategy

Well then they need a tiebreaker or a larger board for the top guilds because 250 teams, no matter how strong, is just going to be too easy to wipe with a group of 3M+ GP rosters.

A free Zeta is a free Zeta. Thanks CG!

"Ledinis;c-1368833" wrote:
As John_Matrix pointed out, successfully winning on defense should also award points, would make ties rare + people would actually need to think on what squads they want to use efficiently instead of zerging.

No, emphasize offense, not defense. Give extra the way it was done in the tournaments. Each surviving member in offense should give +2, each dead one -1.

With this the number of banners would go like this:
5 survive - 10+10 = 20
4 - 10+8-1 = 17
3 - 14
2 - 11
1 - 8

It gives enough variance and emphasizes offense more.

"Degs29;c-1368783" wrote:
I don't see most matches ending in a draw.

But mostly I wanted to respond to your assertion that awarding banners to defensive teams for successfully defending would benefit TW. IMO, I'd agree with you IF you strip the 20 banners for placing the team there in the first place. Otherwise, defending would be all too powerful a strategy.

I’m pretty sure most matches will end in a draw, you can already see it in the matches between the top tier guilds, both guilds are clearing the map, but one of them is doing it more decisively yet they’re both getting 2nd place rewards. But of course that’s still the way I see it so I can’t say you’re wrong. Maybe you’ll be right and this game mode won’t turn out to be a constant race to second, I would love for that to be true.

As for the second part, exactly, the hardest part in this game, the most strategic part is finding a team that’s good enough for AI to beat a human, so naturally it’ll be rewarded better. But you have to remember that in this scenario the other team is putting an emphasis on defense too so the guild that manages to both fortify their defense and leave enough to not drop as many banners on offense is de facto the better guild on the night. As it is now, in most cases, most of the top tier and coordinated guilds are going to be able to clear the map whether it be in 1:30 hours (already happened this time around), a couple of hours later or at he last minute, so the tie breaker will be “how you cleared the map”. If you had a higher success rate than your opponent, you’re the better guild.