"So7hoth;874205" wrote:
"Tigzie;873865" wrote:
"So7hoth;873831" wrote:
"SnakesOnAPlane;873620" wrote:
"So7hoth;873378" wrote:
"scuba;873235" wrote:
"Malthael;873044" wrote:
If this isn't WAI, I'd like my Vader zetas back. This was one of the reasons I zeta'd him in the first place.
Really? You zeta'd Vader because tfp removed tm from more than the attacked opponent with his basic?
Also like to point out this is most likely not a bug with Vader. It is a bug with tfp. It is easier to see with zeta Vader lead.
What ever tfp is doing to check for debuffs can also be dodged.
Tfp vs old Ben lead could actually give TM to the entire opposing team with one attack from his basic.
Tfp vs dooku lead could actually give offense up to the entire team with one attack from his basic.
I zeta'd Vader for that exact reason, sure. I was going to zeta Maul when I saw that video of a guy doing 1.7M damage in heroic AAT P3. TFP was removing tm from the adds, a key component in that score. So yeah, I would also expect my zeta back.
"Malthael;873551" wrote:
"So7hoth;873378" wrote:
"scuba;873235" wrote:
"Malthael;873044" wrote:
If this isn't WAI, I'd like my Vader zetas back. This was one of the reasons I zeta'd him in the first place.
Really? You zeta'd Vader because tfp removed tm from more than the attacked opponent with his basic?
Also like to point out this is most likely not a bug with Vader. It is a bug with tfp. It is easier to see with zeta Vader lead.
What ever tfp is doing to check for debuffs can also be dodged.
Tfp vs old Ben lead could actually give TM to the entire opposing team with one attack from his basic.
Tfp vs dooku lead could actually give offense up to the entire team with one attack from his basic.
I zeta'd Vader for that exact reason, sure. I was going to zeta Maul when I saw that video of a guy doing 1.7M damage in heroic AAT P3. TFP was removing tm from the adds, a key component in that score. So yeah, I would also expect my zeta back.
Exactly my point. That was the only reason I zeta'd him for (raids). I don't use him in arena.
My only assumption was that Devs have the game working as they want it too. If this is not the case, I expect the zeta investment returned.
Give us a break! Y'all clearly read TFP's stats and abilities. Not anywhere does it say you'd get entire opposing team TM reduction at the same time. You're owed squat.
Well, I'm glad you're not a dev and therefore your opinion means "squat" in this case. I'm also puzzled by your "give us a break" comment. Who's "us"? Why do you need a "break"? How come this affects you so much as to request one?
Anyway, there are videos of TFP's ability, combined with Vader's zeta, doing massive P3 damage. That's the sole reason I zeta'd Vader. Malthael is right, the most basic expectation you can put on a company is that their product is working as they intended. If you buy a product from them because of how it performs and afterwards they decide "oh, we screwed up" and change it, it's quite reasonable to expect them to offer their clients the opportunity to return it and get something in exchange.
The product you bought (Vader Zeta) is WAI
The tfp isn't working as intended
It's not the devs fault that you invested because of a video some youtuber made.
The description of the Zeta is accurate in what it does and says in no way does the leader ability say that it should affect tfp there is no way they'll give you a refund for that bud.
Thanks for the opinion bud, but again, you're not one of the devs. This is not a beta game, we are not beta testers. If I see their product working in a certain way, and after a couple of weeks they say nothing about it working badly, why in the world would it be my fault if I decide to invest in it?
And you can keep arguing that it's TFP who's not WAI, but zeta Vader isn't working properly either: as many have remarked, Palpatine's Crackling Doom isn't taking tm away from non-shocked Jedi and Rebel enemies. If they ever "fix" TFP, then they absolutely need to fix all aspects of zeta Vader, and consequently a refund would be in order.
If they ever fix TFP it will probably just change how his damage is calculated on his basic so that it isn't an attack and first of all, can't be dodged, and then in turn it wouldn't take away TM. Read the description:
Empire and Sith allies gain 30% Offense and have a
50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy. This Turn Meter removal can't be Resisted. While Darth Vader is alive, enemies immediately regain Damage Over Time for 2 turns whenever Damage Over Time expires on them.
TFP SHOULD not be removing TM from someone he isn't damaging, that's just a fact. There is no discrepancy there. There isn't any ambiguity at all. It's a very direct line, and TFP is removing TM from enemies that he just isn't damaging. That's certainly not WAI and you really don't have grounds to complain for a refund on Vader's Zeta if they fix TFP's basic to work correctly.
