"Tigzie;874536" wrote:
"Malthael;874514" wrote:
"Tigzie;874468" wrote:
"So7hoth;874205" wrote:
"Tigzie;873865" wrote:
"So7hoth;873831" wrote:
"SnakesOnAPlane;873620" wrote:
"So7hoth;873378" wrote:
"scuba;873235" wrote:
"Malthael;873044" wrote:
If this isn't WAI, I'd like my Vader zetas back. This was one of the reasons I zeta'd him in the first place.
Really? You zeta'd Vader because tfp removed tm from more than the attacked opponent with his basic?
Also like to point out this is most likely not a bug with Vader. It is a bug with tfp. It is easier to see with zeta Vader lead.
What ever tfp is doing to check for debuffs can also be dodged.
Tfp vs old Ben lead could actually give TM to the entire opposing team with one attack from his basic.
Tfp vs dooku lead could actually give offense up to the entire team with one attack from his basic.
I zeta'd Vader for that exact reason, sure. I was going to zeta Maul when I saw that video of a guy doing 1.7M damage in heroic AAT P3. TFP was removing tm from the adds, a key component in that score. So yeah, I would also expect my zeta back.
"Malthael;873551" wrote:
"So7hoth;873378" wrote:
"scuba;873235" wrote:
"Malthael;873044" wrote:
If this isn't WAI, I'd like my Vader zetas back. This was one of the reasons I zeta'd him in the first place.
Really? You zeta'd Vader because tfp removed tm from more than the attacked opponent with his basic?
Also like to point out this is most likely not a bug with Vader. It is a bug with tfp. It is easier to see with zeta Vader lead.
What ever tfp is doing to check for debuffs can also be dodged.
Tfp vs old Ben lead could actually give TM to the entire opposing team with one attack from his basic.
Tfp vs dooku lead could actually give offense up to the entire team with one attack from his basic.
I zeta'd Vader for that exact reason, sure. I was going to zeta Maul when I saw that video of a guy doing 1.7M damage in heroic AAT P3. TFP was removing tm from the adds, a key component in that score. So yeah, I would also expect my zeta back.
Exactly my point. That was the only reason I zeta'd him for (raids). I don't use him in arena.
My only assumption was that Devs have the game working as they want it too. If this is not the case, I expect the zeta investment returned.
Give us a break! Y'all clearly read TFP's stats and abilities. Not anywhere does it say you'd get entire opposing team TM reduction at the same time. You're owed squat.
Well, I'm glad you're not a dev and therefore your opinion means "squat" in this case. I'm also puzzled by your "give us a break" comment. Who's "us"? Why do you need a "break"? How come this affects you so much as to request one?
Anyway, there are videos of TFP's ability, combined with Vader's zeta, doing massive P3 damage. That's the sole reason I zeta'd Vader. Malthael is right, the most basic expectation you can put on a company is that their product is working as they intended. If you buy a product from them because of how it performs and afterwards they decide "oh, we screwed up" and change it, it's quite reasonable to expect them to offer their clients the opportunity to return it and get something in exchange.
The product you bought (Vader Zeta) is WAI
The tfp isn't working as intended
It's not the devs fault that you invested because of a video some youtuber made.
The description of the Zeta is accurate in what it does and says in no way does the leader ability say that it should affect tfp there is no way they'll give you a refund for that bud.
Thanks for the opinion bud, but again, you're not one of the devs. This is not a beta game, we are not beta testers. If I see their product working in a certain way, and after a couple of weeks they say nothing about it working badly, why in the world would it be my fault if I decide to invest in it?
And you can keep arguing that it's TFP who's not WAI, but zeta Vader isn't working properly either: as many have remarked, Palpatine's Crackling Doom isn't taking tm away from non-shocked Jedi and Rebel enemies. If they ever "fix" TFP, then they absolutely need to fix all aspects of zeta Vader, and consequently a refund would be in order.
Agreed I'm not a Dev ... But I do have common sense.
You're saying you actually saw the product was not WAI and invested in it, thinking it would just be left and you'd get to abuse it. Of course it's your fault you invested KNOWING the product wasn't WAI.
Of course products are going to come out with bugs which are then going to be fixed or would you prefer that we only get new content once a year once it's been beta tested for 12 months by a million different people.
Bugger me just earn yourself more Zeta and get another one rather than crying.
Let me put it another way.
The local store is selling cakes that are coloured blue instead of white
Some complete strangers tell you they are coloured blue
You go down there and buy a cake KNOWING THAT ITS BLUE.
You then eat the cake and return each day to get another.
Shop changes the recipie back no more blue cakes
You run back to the shop crying and screaming for your money back even though you've eaten them
Shopkeeper looks at you as if you're mad
You get committed to a mental health institution
Moral - you can't have your cake and eat it.
You're assuming that it was obvious.
Well, if it was obvious wouldn't the devs have seen it? and as such shouldn't they have hold its release?
Or, are we demanding the players to know more about this game than the developers?
P.s. Get off your high horse.
P.s.2 at least Vader seems he can do p2 too, without Tie's alleged bug, so I'm good. The fact remains though.
Edits: trying to work with the quoting system on the phone.
Go back and read his previous posts. He is claiming he DID know and that was the reason he Zetad and that if it's changed he "deserves" his Zeta back.
Not on a high horse just wish people would use basic common sense before coming to the forums to cry **** things.
P.S read posts before commenting
P.S 2 I like Vader Zeta with or without TFP
To recap, I say if the devs modify the way my toons work I would expect a refund, then you jump in and judge conclusively I shouldn't. I explain my rationale for expecting a refund, you go on an elaborate rant including an odd, barely coherent analogy. You end it saying I'm crying, then repeat the accusation in a subsequent post. All of this for something that doesn't affect you in any way.
Your "common sense" is in full display, I see.
