Character interaction on offence has become so complex at the top level that if your using any team consisting of thrawn dn gk you can win. Nothing holds on defence, mods gear and star level are becoming less and less a factor as well as characters are starting to deal in absolutes like thrawn and Dn. I know the level cap increase is coming and so is gear 12 but an easy fix is making star levels matter more not just in stats! Each star level should have different abilities or abilities locked until higher star levels are reached. 6 star characters like thrawn or even 5 star characters like chaze have no business being even competitive against 7 star right now there's nothing that sets anyone apart. Even pve at the top end comes down to rng now... I'm almost thinking this is EAs new direction have everyone scrambling to achieve something that isn't achievable.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/d44f6edb7466d825ad463ddf7a4a2edc/tumblr_naoml0v69l1t3xmw3o1_250.gifI speak whale too.

Whales have problems too bro, I'm only Whaley cause I've been playing since release :)

So a 7* gr 8 ShT must be harder to kill than a 5* gr 11 ShT. Same with my 7* Greedo should be better than this dummy 5* Thrawn. It's not the solution, the top arena is already hard to access due to the crazy speed secondary on mods that you need. Allowing that would only access top arena to the whales. But it's maybe what you want.

"BulYwif;c-1185020" wrote:So a 7* gr 8 ShT must be harder to kill than a 5* gr 11 ShT. Same with my 7* Greedo should be better than this dummy 5* Thrawn. It's not the solution, the top arena is already hard to access due to the crazy speed secondary on mods that you need. Allowing that would only access top arena to the whales. But it's maybe what you want.I think that stat increase should be increased per star level, but kit wise a 5 star thrawn at base stats will always be better then 7 star greedo. What I'm saying is a 7 star greedo should be substantially better then a 5 star greedo, and a 7 star gear 8 should still be better then a 5 star gear 11, star level should be the most influencetial stat.

"ExarTheKun;c-1185009" wrote:https://68.media.tumblr.com/d44f6edb7466d825ad463ddf7a4a2edc/tumblr_naoml0v69l1t3xmw3o1_250.gifI speak whale too.That is the greatest 1st post I've seen in quite awhile. Well played good sir. "Darth_bane16;c-1185025" wrote:"BulYwif;c-1185020" wrote:So a 7* gr 8 ShT must be harder to kill than a 5* gr 11 ShT. Same with my 7* Greedo should be better than this dummy 5* Thrawn. It's not the solution, the top arena is already hard to access due to the crazy speed secondary on mods that you need. Allowing that would only access top arena to the whales. But it's maybe what you want.....and a 7 star gear 8 should still be better then a 5 star gear 11, star level should be the most influencetial stat.I think you're crazy. It's completely out of the way the game is designed from literally the moment you start playing. However my roster would SIGNIFICANTLY improve. Every single 7* purple is now viable, instead of 0 hit fodder? Uh, sure.

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jjkriv
8 years ago
Why not just up the star level from 7 to something insane like 25,this would force everyone to choose a path and make it interesting than just everyone having a measly 7 star.Every toon would have to be farmable of course.
Omeah
8 years ago
"jjkriv;c-1185081" wrote:
Why not just up the star level from 7 to something insane like 25,this would force everyone to choose a path and make it interesting than just everyone having a measly 7 star.Every toon would have to be farmable of course.

They already explicitly stated they will never increase star count, because of shard shop exchanges, legendary toons set shard count etc.
boulywif
8 years ago
"jjkriv;c-1185081" wrote:
Why not just up the star level from 7 to something insane like 25,this would force everyone to choose a path and make it interesting than just everyone having a measly 7 star.Every toon would have to be farmable of course.

I would love to farm ShT on a single hard node until level 25 :wink:
morrbidd
8 years ago
"DedrickRogue;c-1185076" wrote:
"Darth_bane16;c-1185063" wrote:

"Ikey;c-1185056" wrote:
So I spend a month farming gear pieces for a 5 star toon, only to be out done by a G7, 7 star of the very same toon? Yeah, that sounds **** fantastic. Gear and mods, in most cases are harder to farm than shards. I see no problem with the current situation.

I get it dude doesn't make sense too you, and I'm being super picky but at the top everyone has the best toons max gear and mods all in the same ballpark, and at that level in a mirror match a 6 star DN 5 star thrawn shouldn't be able to beat a full 7 star team with equal gear and mods 99% of the time it should be more around 60% of the time that's all I'm saying.

You're confusing power creep with stars not mattering at all. Those 2 characters specifically can function at non maxed level because their kits are nuts, and neither relies on damage to be crazy effective. As an added bonus they both are recent releases, which tend to be quite a bit tankier then older toons, so a lower star level doesn't hurt them as much.

Also the AI is not so great on D, so especially in a mirror you'll lose because of poor AI decisions.

Bro I agree man but let's claw back to a toon like CUP (lol) all things equal mods and gear why can a 5 star function at the same level as a 7 star? Doesn't make sense, there has to be some factor that distinguishes one players toons from another, and that use to be mods but even those have evened out in the top 20, at the end of the day the only thing that adds any explicitly is the event release toons at higher star level and a 5 star thrawn shouldn't function at the same level as a 7 star givin the difference it takes to get an entire Phoenix squad up to par, just like when the new Luke is released a 7 star should smash a 5 star but I won't
IkeyLFC
8 years ago
"Darth_bane16;c-1185063" wrote:

"Ikey;c-1185056" wrote:
So I spend a month farming gear pieces for a 5 star toon, only to be out done by a G7, 7 star of the very same toon? Yeah, that sounds **** fantastic. Gear and mods, in most cases are harder to farm than shards. I see no problem with the current situation.

I get it dude doesn't make sense too you, and I'm being super picky but at the top everyone has the best toons max gear and mods all in the same ballpark, and at that level in a mirror match a 6 star DN 5 star thrawn shouldn't be able to beat a full 7 star team with equal gear and mods 99% of the time it should be more around 60% of the time that's all I'm saying.

I make top 2 everyday in my shard. It's the AI that's flawed. Not the star level. Its not designed to target one until defeated. It's RNG with who it targets, as you'll know. On offense, you take out the biggest threat first.
Plus, speed is the real winner.
BarneyStin_sius
8 years ago
"Darth_bane16;c-1185088" wrote:
"DedrickRogue;c-1185076" wrote:
"Darth_bane16;c-1185063" wrote:

"Ikey;c-1185056" wrote:
So I spend a month farming gear pieces for a 5 star toon, only to be out done by a G7, 7 star of the very same toon? Yeah, that sounds **** fantastic. Gear and mods, in most cases are harder to farm than shards. I see no problem with the current situation.

I get it dude doesn't make sense too you, and I'm being super picky but at the top everyone has the best toons max gear and mods all in the same ballpark, and at that level in a mirror match a 6 star DN 5 star thrawn shouldn't be able to beat a full 7 star team with equal gear and mods 99% of the time it should be more around 60% of the time that's all I'm saying.

You're confusing power creep with stars not mattering at all. Those 2 characters specifically can function at non maxed level because their kits are nuts, and neither relies on damage to be crazy effective. As an added bonus they both are recent releases, which tend to be quite a bit tankier then older toons, so a lower star level doesn't hurt them as much.

Also the AI is not so great on D, so especially in a mirror you'll lose because of poor AI decisions.

Bro I agree man but let's claw back to a toon like CUP (lol) all things equal mods and gear why can a 5 star function at the same level as a 7 star? Doesn't make sense, there has to be some factor that distinguishes one players toons from another, and that use to be mods but even those have evened out in the top 20, at the end of the day the only thing that adds any explicitly is the event release toons at higher star level and a 5 star thrawn shouldn't function at the same level as a 7 star givin the difference it takes to get an entire Phoenix squad up to par, just like when the new Luke is released a 7 star should smash a 5 star but I won't

Bro, in this entire wall of words you used literally 1 question mark and 2 commas.

I'm not sure what to say except maybe this isn't the game for you. You seem to want stars to be the determining factor for how toons perform, rather then accept that the game has always been gear>mods>stars. You're saying that a very intentional design decision about how characters upgrade since literally day 1 should be the exact opposite of the way it has always worked. Not only that but drop rates in nodes, and and ease of access to shards vs gear in shops has all been designed around gear being the big gate.

This will NEVER change, the game would literally have to be rebalanced from the ground up.
morrbidd
8 years ago
"Ikey;c-1185094" wrote:
"Darth_bane16;c-1185063" wrote:

"Ikey;c-1185056" wrote:
So I spend a month farming gear pieces for a 5 star toon, only to be out done by a G7, 7 star of the very same toon? Yeah, that sounds **** fantastic. Gear and mods, in most cases are harder to farm than shards. I see no problem with the current situation.

I get it dude doesn't make sense too you, and I'm being super picky but at the top everyone has the best toons max gear and mods all in the same ballpark, and at that level in a mirror match a 6 star DN 5 star thrawn shouldn't be able to beat a full 7 star team with equal gear and mods 99% of the time it should be more around 60% of the time that's all I'm saying.

I make top 2 everyday in my shard. It's the AI that's flawed. Not the star level. Its not designed to target one until defeated. It's RNG with who it targets, as you'll know. On offense, you take out the biggest threat first.
Plus, speed is the real winner.

Dude I've been pulling #1 for like 18 months straight I'm well aware of how it works but lately I'm seeing 5 and 6 star 70k dudes hanging out in the top 10 not because of anything else other then star level doesn't matter enough, anyone can farm mods and gear not everyone has the roster to pull 7 star event toons, it should matter more
lisztophobia
8 years ago
"Darth_bane16;c-1185096" wrote:
"Ikey;c-1185094" wrote:
"Darth_bane16;c-1185063" wrote:

"Ikey;c-1185056" wrote:
So I spend a month farming gear pieces for a 5 star toon, only to be out done by a G7, 7 star of the very same toon? Yeah, that sounds **** fantastic. Gear and mods, in most cases are harder to farm than shards. I see no problem with the current situation.

I get it dude doesn't make sense too you, and I'm being super picky but at the top everyone has the best toons max gear and mods all in the same ballpark, and at that level in a mirror match a 6 star DN 5 star thrawn shouldn't be able to beat a full 7 star team with equal gear and mods 99% of the time it should be more around 60% of the time that's all I'm saying.

I make top 2 everyday in my shard. It's the AI that's flawed. Not the star level. Its not designed to target one until defeated. It's RNG with who it targets, as you'll know. On offense, you take out the biggest threat first.
Plus, speed is the real winner.

Dude I've been pulling #1 for like 18 months straight I'm well aware of how it works but lately I'm seeing 5 and 6 star 70k dudes hanging out in the top 10 not because of anything else other then star level doesn't matter enough, anyone can farm mods and gear not everyone has the roster to pull 7 star event toons, it should matter more
Would you care to explain why stars need to matter more?

I've never really seen an argument in favor of greater emphasis on stars that didn't boil down to "so it will prevent people with fewer stars from competing with me in arena because I'm me and I'm special."
morrbidd
8 years ago
how about this list you're profile link, if it's 90+ and rank 1 daily all month I'll respond if not you don't know what I'm talking about :)
lisztophobia
8 years ago
So is it about money? "I paid to win, so give me the wins"?