The ongoing destruction of small guilds
As a leader of a 40k mill GP guild, I find it obvious that Capital Games don't want small guild like ours. With the new g12+ update, which is only obtainable via Heroic Sith Raid, this is very clear. ...
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Well it was fun hitting first or second in arena for a few weeks. Back to the 100-200 range I guess.
That's the consequence of a small guild. What do you expect?
Well that's new. The consequence of being in a smaller guild used to be you had to wait longer to get gear. Now they just can't get it.
Nope, you still have to wait longer.
-eventually your guild will be capable of hSith and get the gear
-they have already stated that these gear pieces will be available elsewhere later
So if you’re ok with the existing trade off, good news!
No. Before every guild could take down the tier necessary to get the gear even if it took weeks. Now they can't get it.
Please stop with the purposefully oblivious statements.
Well maybe that's reason to join a hatr guild...if you want to stay competative anyways
That line of thinking is exactly what the problem is with making it hstr only. Shouldn't have to join a different guild to be competitive in the individual areas of the game.
If hstr rewards aren't supposed to help in individual areas of the game, where should they help? I'm just curious if you think that elite guilds shouldn't be allowed to progress their toons to g12+ because others willingly opt out of the opportunity.
Willingly opt out? By what stretch of the imagination did you come up with that malarkey?
The bonus guilds get by completing heroic has always been a character. Making it a character and extremely powerful gear as well is extremely imbalanced and unprecedented.
Of course the gear should help in individual areas of the game... Exactly the problem with making it heroic exclusive.
I think we are getting off topic.
The OP is choosing to opt out. He is saying his intentionally small guild cant compete. This is different than 2 full sized guild not being able to do the raid at the same level and the rewards there in.
Please stay on topic to this thread.
He is not even slightly opting out. He is complaining that the game has chosen to leave him no way to progress other than to opt out of his guild.
He is complaining that he can't progress unless he chooses to opt out. Forcing people to go to a different guild to progress and them not wanting to isn't even slightly close to them "opting out".
I don't think we are getting off topic. The topic of the thread is the ongoing destruction of smaller guilds. It references the new g12 gear being the root. All discussion involving the gear that the raid gives, how it affects members and guilds fall under this umbrella because even how it affects individual members affects what will happen to the guilds.
Every one of these topics is so interconnected it is impossible to separate them so discussing any of them isn't getting off topic.
The real problem in this thread is all the people who keep thinking that joining an HSTR raid is the resolution to the problem this thread is complaining of. No, that IS the problem, not the solution to it.
He is in a 40M GP guild, by choice. He is opting to be in a smaller and/or less active guild.
There is no reason someone choosing to be in a guild that does not filling in a minor checkmark set by the game (50 members) and made up of players at his same or similar level, should be competing at the top end of the game, or be able to complete "end game content".
That is opting out.
What you are talking about is full (45+) member guilds not being able to compete with similar guilds just because they are not able to get past p6 tier raid and graduate to heroic. There is a difference.
Please stay on topic of small guilds as the OP stated.
It is not opting out. So when the hSTR came out, did CG extend an offer to everyone to get into an hSTR guild? No, then he wasn't offered that as an option. He couldn't even opt in to that state, in no way is he opting out.
The issue that he's addressing is that smaller guilds are getting pushed out. Not because they have few members but because they have low gp. The issues that he are addressing apply to more guilds than ones in his exact situation and the title of the thread is destruction of smaller guilds, not destruction of guilds that aren't full of people. The topic includes every thing that has been under discussion here.
Never in the past has gear been tied to a heroic. It has always been available to all guilds because they could get by using refreshes with no timer. End game content meant characters. You could acquire the gear, just at a slower rate than those who had progressed further. Now it is unattainable to any except those at a certain level of progression. That is the problem. That is the complaint.
