New Conquest

I’m doing better in this conquest than the last one

I’ve found it pretty easy (on hard mode). No issues getting the red box. Try using Bit Dynasty’s website 

In what way? Globals are worth 18 instead of 15, they gave two new disks to help with feats, and they don't even have a feat requiring the Stranger. Seems to me like they really want everyone to have Satele.

xp3os692n6h2 wrote:

Well the new conquest totally sucks and has pretty much guaranteed that I will no longer participate and definitely won’t be purchasing anymore conquest passes.

Every new batch of Conquests gets posts like this.  However, a lot has changed for this new batch of Conquests.  It may have been more informative for everybody if you gave reasons why you feel this new Conquests sucks.

Like everybody before me, I've found it quite painless.  However, there are of course a few points that are/will be more of a pain.  Sector 1 for example is harder and less easy to complete globals'.

crzydroid wrote:

they gave two new disks to help with feats,

Sorry crzydroid I can't agree with this. Although not one of the 'worst things' CG has done; I guess, not even one of the worst lately.  However, if we're going to be in a position where we need to use a data-disk to stop the opposition dying to complete feats..............Conquest is going is a very very bad direction.

In no way, is using energy to battle teams indefinitely to lose (as designed) a good game mechanic.  This really sucks and asks the question whether we really need Relic Delta in Conquest.  They ran the last batch without it, why add it if they need data-disks to do this?  Very poor game design, IMO.

Easiest conquest I've ever done 

I can tell you normal mode conquest is awful.  My r7 teams are regularly wiped out (not just losing, but I never have a chance) to the NPC G12 and R0 teams. it's really frustrating.  Hard mode on my main account is much more fun and the enemy squads are the same level as in normal mode, but players actually have the roster depth and mods to compete by the time they get to hard.

I can’t agree with your disagreeing with crzydroid… 

Defeating enemies too fast when trying to farm debuffs for a feat has always been an issue in Conquest - long before RD was ever on the horizon. 

Now a disk exists that offers the potential for us to rack up those debuffs in one battle rather than using hundreds of Conquest energy trying to slow-play battles as best we can to collect them in small instalments. 

How is that a bad thing? 

DarjeloSalas wrote:

How is that a bad thing? 

A data-disk that forces you to lose is horrible game design.  

DarjeloSalas wrote:

Now a disk exists that offers the potential for us to rack up those debuffs in one battle rather than using hundreds of Conquest energy trying to slow-play battles as best we can to collect them in small instalments. 

So why add this now?  I presume that debuff/buff feats will become practically impossible with RD?

If this is an issue, and I'm not disagreeing it isn't an issue; the feats need to be redesigned.

DarjeloSalas wrote:

offers the potential for us to rack up those debuffs in one battle rather than using hundreds of Conquest energy trying to slow-play battles as best we can to collect them in small instalments. 

We have to farm datacrons anyway.  Unless I simply cannot keep a team alive long enough to get some buffs/debuffs, I won't be using it.  I hate wasting energy, totally rubs my OCD issue the wrong way.

This is very similar to the GC issue of having feats you cannot see if you're completing or not.  If there is an issue with feats, the feats need a redesign.  Not this ghastly coloured band aid fix.

Why add it now? We can connect it to the impending arrival of RD, but it’s also possible they recognised something that might be useful for the playerbase - even if some don’t see it as helpful. I mean, CG doing things to help the playerbase might be a stretch, but it’s not something we can dismiss out of hand. 

Re: farming DCs anyway, I’ve seen more than one of these debuff feats that wasn’t very compatible with the DC material node, so slow-farming the feat via that node was sometimes prohibitively time consuming, and I’m sure some players may have been unable to complete the feat using that node at all. 

I’ve regularly used 20 Conquest energy to pick up all (or nearly all) of a debuff feat on an unsuccessful attempt. Disarm and O66 in recent Conquests, for example. I always found this preferable to playing several battles on manual getting 1 or 2 at a time. 

You are not obligated to use the disk. I wouldn't say it's necessary at all. It's still possible to farm going through nodes. But it's a nice option.

It also doesn't force you to lose. You can still bring instakills.

But what is more a waste of energy? Doing all the feats in one battle and timing out, or doing them over multiple battles? There are times where you might intentionally time out while farming feats so as to not waste stamina. The o66 feat a couple of Conquests ago I wasn't able to do on a treasure node. So I had to farm that feat with no rewards anyway. Plus, even on a treasure node, I'd rather not prolong the process wearing down stamina. Anything that gets me to simming those nodes sooner is a positive. 

And if you don't want to use it, don't. I don't see them as pushing us down a path where we need it more than usual anyway. If you load up on Zealous Ambition, you are defeating a lot of units without applying debuffs. Now you have another option.

There is no universe in which I see the theory of this disc as a bad thing or bad design. The only downside I see to it is that it has laid bare the lack of reading comprehension among the player base.