"JacenRoe;c-1582092" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-1582024" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1581790" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-1581772" wrote:
CG has never made it so that someone had to complete a heroic to obtain a type of gear before.
With the Rancor, one could get the raid gear starting at tier V.
With the AAT, one can get that gear from tier VI.
With the STR, it can only be gotten from the heroic, the tier VII.
This is very problematic whether or not people choose to acknowledge it. With the no refreshes and rarity requirements, guilds have to work up to being able to take down the heroic, not everyone can.
Always in the past, people could get that gear anyway. Sure maybe it took a month to get down tVI AAT, but you got the gear at the end of it. You could still keep up in arena, you just had to be more selective about who you geared up.
This is the ONLY place to get this gear. Now people who aren't in the top guilds CAN'T get that gear, period. This has never happened before, it is a very unhealthy shift AWAY from balance.
Just like guild event currency should come from every single tier of STR. Not getting shards for a sweet toon? Oh well, make do with lesser guys so you can work towards that guy. Not getting the gear because you're not strong enough? But you need gear to get stronger...
Let's be clear here. Someone in a tiny guild can still clear a t6AAT and get that gear even if they are doing t5Rancor. They can still get it if they want to put in the effort. Tying gear to heroic only is an abominable decision. Should at the very least be in T6 too. Really should be able to get it starting tV like raid gear in the Rancor.
Why is it problematic? There is nothing you need to reach the max gear level that is exclusive. Every guild that is completing HSR did it without whatever is getting added. If the rewards in HSR were going to exclusively allow elite guilds to reach gear 13 then I'd say that's not fair. But that isn't what's happening. Top level rewards are going to be slashed to the bone in exchange for small quantities of something that isn't needed.
Reaching g12 is a big deal. That isn't exclusive. Reaching g12 with 3 extra slots filled instead of 2 is not a big deal. Some of the g12 pieces are filler with no benefit to the character. Even the really good ones aren't life changing. My g12 Palpatine still dies first in arena even with that 6000 health piece. This whole thing is such a non-issue.
It is absolutely NOT a non-issue. When you are talking about Squad arena EVERY piece of gear matters. Now because I can't farm this gear, it will push my squad rank down, which means that not only can I NOT get gear, I can now get even LESS gear because my crystal income goes down.
Exclusive gear is a HUGE problem. It creates a chain reaction effect across the competitive game modes that will push everyone who isn't farming hSTR down in every other game mode.
Why would someone like the OP in a 40 million GP guild be competing in arena against a player capable of completing the HSR?
The minimum seems to be 120 million GP for guilds that can complete it. If you choose to be in a guild where you are 3 times stronger than your guildies then you are choosing to not be competitive.
If you are where you belong in a 40 mill GP guild and fighting in an arena with someone who whaled out and has triple your GP then you had no shot at competing against them anyhow for at least a year.
And let's look at something besides what the OP was talking about. If you are just shy of being able to complete HSR, and competing in arena against someone who is... SO WHAT? Farm the teams needed, and stop crying. My 5*/g11 Sion does just fine every day against a slew of 7*/g12 Sions. That is a WAY WAY WAY bigger gap that I have to farm for the better part of a year to close than a fraction of a gear level. G12.5 is not going to be such a giant hairy deal that G12.3 will be complete devastated in arena.
In conclusion... I like to pick on people.
FIFY
I am in a 78 million GP guild and I get top ranks in arena. I am currently facing 3 Trayas at the top, but I know there's more on the way. I am concerned about those 2 pieces of gear because I know there's a big difference already between g12 and g12.5. Going from g12.5 to g12.8 will be just as big a gap, the stats on those pieces are HUGE.
In conclusion, not one of your rebuttals seems well though out to me. No they seem like knee-jerk reaction downplaying those you see as beneath you.
"Waqui;c-1582130" wrote:
"Stenun;c-1581735" wrote:
"kello_511;c-1581715" wrote:
What is it that you really expect to change
Don't make some gear only available to players in a Top Level guild.
Characters, fair enough. But my making Player A have access to gear that Player B doesn't, Player A's characters will be more powerful than Player B's. Player A's Stormtrooper will have gear that Player B cannot get.
So suddenly Player A is going to win their fights even if all they do is zero-tag the Heroic Sith Raid while Player B runs his guild and solos the Heroic Tank for everyone, etc.
Traya is not available to all players, hence some players will have a character in their sith team which others won't have. Suddenly some players will have a much harder time against those teams with Traya. You find that completely fair, but not if the increased difficulty is due to a gear advantage instead? I find that a bit...flawed.
Don't worry too much about it. In half a year or maybe one year, the current smaller guilds will be able to farm heroic STR as well. It took less than a year from the AAT raid was introduced until almost any guild would be able to beat it regarding they farmed the suitable characters for the 'super teams'. The same thing will happen with heroic STR.
I don't see how you find it flawed. There are always easy to farm counters to OP rare characters. But it requires you gear them. G12 and g12.5 have a huge difference in stats, it's not a negligible difference. Why would you think that the difference between 12.5 and 12.8 would be negligible? I'm certain it won't be. Look at the stats on the g12 pieces so far. They're ridiculous. That's too big a gap. It's one thing to have to rely on substandard characters, but if you can't even gear them up equally... that's a big gap that they shouldn't create.
It's a big deal. They need to put that gear in at least t6 as well, really should go into t5 too.
