The Stand Your Ground Update [MEGA]

"Pariah_Anchorite;c-2277655" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2277497" wrote:

"KenobiWarrior;c-2277495" wrote:

KenobiWarrior there are currently no plans for compensation.

Thank you for the reply Kyno !
I know you’re not the one making the decision but I am a bit disappointed nevertheless since this is really something that had an effect on us players and GC acknowledged it’s a bug. However, thank you Kyno :smile:

KenobiWarrior they based it on the data they pulled that showed no change to the win rate. I am not trying to defend anything, just giving out information.

This *one* event change is a representative sample?

Sure, why not?

This is a data point that can be examined and compared to other points and other calculations, like the average, ext....

"TVF;c-2277629" wrote:

"zatho;c-2277573" wrote:
I want do mention that I don't think these 5 CAT shards were any kind of compensation. They needed to give them to players so that whales had a reason to burn their conquest currency for expensive shards. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a chance to unlock her within 3 events.

The CAT shards were for a pricing error.

Yes. So that people could get her for free when starting from nothing, without whaling on her

"Kyno;c-2277670" wrote:

"Pariah_Anchorite;c-2277655" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2277497" wrote:

"KenobiWarrior;c-2277495" wrote:

KenobiWarrior there are currently no plans for compensation.

Thank you for the reply Kyno !
I know you’re not the one making the decision but I am a bit disappointed nevertheless since this is really something that had an effect on us players and GC acknowledged it’s a bug. However, thank you Kyno :smile:

KenobiWarrior they based it on the data they pulled that showed no change to the win rate. I am not trying to defend anything, just giving out information.

This *one* event change is a representative sample?

Sure, why not?

This is a data point that can be examined and compared to other points and other calculations, like the average, ext....

Sorry to come here again @Kyno but I just had one more thought after talking to a guildmate. You, like me and CG, see this from a very statistical point of view which I think is perfectly fine. And maybe there is no statistical significant difference at some level between the two groups (no bug and bug), which I totally accept and which is a perfectly solid level of argumentation.

However, since there was a bug and given the huge number of players, there must have been at least 1 person (just figuratively) who was adversely affected by this bug. Does he or she get compensation? Under this statistical argument not since in the bigger picture they just don’t matter. From a player experience view, however, I think it’s fair to reward this player compensation for a bug that he or she could not control.

"KenobiWarrior;c-2277734" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2277670" wrote:

"Pariah_Anchorite;c-2277655" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2277497" wrote:

"KenobiWarrior;c-2277495" wrote:

KenobiWarrior there are currently no plans for compensation.

Thank you for the reply Kyno !
I know you’re not the one making the decision but I am a bit disappointed nevertheless since this is really something that had an effect on us players and GC acknowledged it’s a bug. However, thank you Kyno :smile:

KenobiWarrior they based it on the data they pulled that showed no change to the win rate. I am not trying to defend anything, just giving out information.

This *one* event change is a representative sample?

Sure, why not?

This is a data point that can be examined and compared to other points and other calculations, like the average, ext....

Sorry to come here again Kyno but I just had one more thought after talking to a guildmate. You, like me and CG, see this from a very statistical point of view which I think is perfectly fine. And maybe there is no statistical significant difference at some level between the two groups (no bug and bug), which I totally accept and which is a perfectly solid level of argumentation.

However, since there was a bug and given the huge number of players, there must have been at least 1 person (just figuratively) who was adversely affected by this bug. Does he or she get compensation? Under this statistical argument not since in the bigger picture they just don’t matter. From a player experience view, however, I think it’s fair to reward this player compensation for a bug that he or she could not control.

I'm sure there are players who lost this last round, but if we look at it from that perspective, the issue is that once players win, it's no guarantee they will win every time after. This would make it hard to attribute any loss to this specific issue.

All that said without a statistical change in the win rate, that would mean that players won with this issue at a similar rate, meaning the natural +/- was still there, and not affected by this issue.

I am not arguing they shouldn't, just sharing information.