This is really bothering me...

One more:

4) Why do you care?

"D4n040798;c-2174589" wrote:
How is it okay that Old Ben Kenobi gets the Jedi and Rebel tags but Luke only gets the Jedi tag with no Rebel synergies?

"D4n040798;c-2174591" wrote:
Does that seem like a good point to bring up?

No, because you ignore the balancing aspect of a holotable game where you can field characters of different eras and affiliations in the same team. It's not lore accurate either to have Wat, GAS and Rey in the same team, nor should it be the moment you are playing a holotable game (again).

Rebels have a perfectly working team under CLS that doesn't need Luke. Rebel fighters have another fine team that don't need Luke as a rebel (there are already more than enough RF to pick from as it is).

So from the game and its balancing's perspective it's perfectly fine for Luke to synergize best with non-OR Jedi.

"D4n040798;c-2174589" wrote:
How is it okay that Old Ben Kenobi gets the Jedi and Rebel tags but Luke only gets the Jedi tag with no Rebel synergies?

Points 1 & 2. You didn't even read my post, did you?

I think you need to accept that it doesn’t take any sense. In a perfect world, JKL surely should have a rebel tag. Absolutely, it make sense from a lore point of view.

But you need to accept that “making sense” isn’t the only factor at play. They have decided that the tag would cause imbalance and so, sensibly or not, he isn’t getting it.

No point in arguing the “it makes sense” angle, because that’s not the deciding factor here.

"D4n040798;c-2174604" wrote:
What proof do they have to back up the claim that a Rebel tag would cause imbalance?

Reading kits combined with logic?

"D4n040798;c-2174619" wrote:
They won’t truly know whether the community would think a Rebel tag would cause imbalance or not if they don’t try it with the community. They gotta be willing to try things like this with the community as well, not just within CG. They need to try this with the community to truly know what their thoughts opinions are. Who knows, maybe after playing with this for a while, the community might feel differently about the balance and surprise CG. You never know if you don’t try.

They do not make balance decisions based on what the community thinks, they base it on internal testing, and as others have said, logic.

Also, from a company perspective it is never a good idea to give something and then take it away.

"D4n040798;c-2174639" wrote:
I wasn’t saying the majority of the players would want what I want. I was merely saying that they shouldn’t add things to the game without having all of us test it and give our feedback first.

But then what is the threshold, how do they decide what to keep and what to not keep in game, simple majority?

How long do they wait, to get people to use it?

How do they get the feedback from "everyone"?

Let's just say that the majority of players luke being able to use a new thing introduced for free, but it beats something that was introduced not that long ago and was really expensive and limited to fewer players..... which group is the one you ignore?


In the case of JKL, when does this decision get made, as a majority of the player base doesnt have him yet???

If it's just the majority of the players who have the new item, how do they decide to remove something that is super powerful and the people who have them who like winning, say it's great.... do they keep it in game?

From my experience in any BETA, many times something is introduced and will come and be changed, then launched again, then possibly another round of testing and changes..... are you saying the whole community should be involved in this type of game play?

It becomes more of a job than a game at that point, and there ate many players who dont want to play a game like that.

Also, how do they do any sort of monetization of an new element when they know they are going to make changes based on feedback after its released??? Seems like a slippery slope to a lot of refunds....

What you ate talking about is a beta and they do this already, but it cant be done on a large scale for things like characters and game balance, it just doesnt work.

Jedi Luke is not a Rebel, because in the movies, he crowned himself a Jedi at the end, just before having his butt handed to him by a sith lord. So technically, Jedi Knight Luke didn't take part of any rebel action, because the only things he did was fleeing from the death star 2 and partying like an animal ewok-style. Ergo, not a Rebel. Arguably, a Pilot and an Ewok.

"D4n040798;c-2175261" wrote:
Of course it matters, because if you haven’t read my previous post, Luke did NOT stop being a Rebel IN Return of the Jedi, but rather BETWEEN Return of the Jedi AND The Force Awakens. Having saved the Rebels from Jabba the Hutt, gone with the Rebels to Endor on their mission to deactivate the shield generator, AND celebrated the Empire’s defeat with the Rebels, he is 100% a Rebel while also 100% a Jedi. Don’t you understand that?

No, he means what happened in "real life" Star Wars doesn't matter, because the tags are not a statement of lore. They are a tool to balance a holotable game in a cantina.

"D4n040798;c-2175278" wrote:
Don’t any of you believe that good balance in this game can’t exist without good balance in the community? People have quit playing SWGOH because they don’t like or want Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker without a Rebel tag. Therefore that puts the community at an imbalance which isn’t good for the game at all.

sounds like these players were on the edge and were looking for reason to leave