This is the real meta, and it needs a nerf

What if multiple people could attack the same opponent at once, but only the first to win would move up. The others would receive a message/popup saying what happened.

It would suck to enter into a battle & then have someone else beat them first, wasting your attempt, but it could eliminate clock blocking. Any thoughts on it?

Khorvog's idea of shard shuffling is a pretty good one. I'd love to see new people to battle in the arena from time to time!

"scuba;1009159" wrote:

"ExarTheKun;1009138" wrote:

"scuba;1007085" wrote:

"ExarTheKun;1006597" wrote:

"scuba;1006591" wrote:
1. Reduce rewards, allows way more top finishes by my suggestions below and doesn't break the "economies"
2. Get rid of tiered rankings for awards. Keep the ranks and rank swapping just to keep more equal teams near each other but being a certain rank at a specific 1 second time means nothing for payout.
3. Make payout reward tiers equal to winning x number of arena battles between resets vs x ranked opponents. Example win 4 battles vs top 10 teams and you get maxed payout. Win 3 vs top 10 opponents you get next tier of payout.

Until they get rid of being a specific rank for that one moment in time lockouts will always be a part of arena.

Reduced rewards..?

No one would bother with arena if the rewards were any less. I know I wouldn't.

You think they are really going to hand out more 1st place rewards then they currently do and keep the payments the same??? If so keep deaming. If the number of possible 1st place finishes goes up beyond the current 24 then the payout will go down to keep it average out to the same.

I would be fine with reduced rewards to give up being summoned to my phone on 1755/1855 daily.

That's my point exactly. YOU are comfortable with less work for less reward. Actual, competitive players prefer to fight for #1 and get the rewards they deserve. You can take your 150 crystals at rank 50 or whatever it is. Just don't get upset when the people who are trying to get #1 and 500 crystals actually do it.

No one is making you come to your phone for rewards. This is a game, not a chore.

The main point of mentioning the reduced rewards is simply because if they increase the number of #1 payouts don't expect the same rewards.
Most of the changes suggested all the time involve make more number #1 payouts daily. If one goes up the other goes down. Hope for the best expect the worse.

I could actually care less if they make a change or not because it is a game and i will play if I am having fun with whatever system is in place, which I am currently still having fun. If they ban outside communications or not, change refreshes or not, change payout format or not I will still play.

As far as competition goes the only real competition in My Squad Arena is who can hit the battle button the fastest.

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"MrGrips;1008082" wrote:

@Synergy Earlier on the thread you said there isnt a way for devs to implement a way to stop collusion. There are ways though. One way is you could revamp arena. Make it a blind arena where you get a random enemy above you in rank within a few places, and base ranking on a point system. That's just one example.

"Synergy;1007646" wrote:

"spotremix;1007110" wrote:
when i did arena on a regular basis i did my 5 battles whenever i wanted. i don't care who's payout time it was. my goal for arena back then was to be at the best possible rank at all times.

i use to space 3 battles throughout the day and try to finish the 3rd battle around my payout time. that left me with 2 battles after my payout time and i never hesitated to use them.

as far as i'm concerned arena is every man/woman for themselves at all non cheating costs.

Collusion does not break developer "intent" nor does it violate the ToS as it is not hacking the game nor is it a form of cheating. Collusion was patched with Tournaments relatively quickly after release, whereas collusion has been allowed to continue in Arena for the entire duration of the game with the devs almost certainly knowing about it. This, if anything, is an implicit "ok" from the devs that this is working as intended. It has never changed in the past, it probably isn't going to change now, and thinking it will just because you happen to be struggling in your shard is just naive. The OP is speculating about the developer "intent" when in reality, Arena is just a Free For All environment (emphasis on All).
Consider this, you're in the Colosseum with 9 other gladiators. You sneak off to the locker room and **** on everyone else's gear, just because you feel like it. The others find out and agree to team up on you when it's time to fight.
No one is doing anything wrong here. FFA means you have the freedom to do whatever you want (**** on other people's gear). FFA also means everyone else has the freedom to do what they want (team up against you).
Actions have consequences. When you step all over other people's payouts, you're going to turn people against you. You have the freedom to play however you want within the ToS, and sniping outside your payout is not prohibited. That's fine, but you can't expect others to not have that same freedom to play how they want.

It probably breaks intent because the tutorial for the game doesnt at all mention colluding for arena, and arena has strong connotations of a true FFA. Also, saying something is intended because the developers have failed to address it is fallacious. Thats like saying tax loopholes are intended (maybe sometimes lol, but not always).

Lets make arena great. The devs can do it. I came up with a solution, maybe its subpar, but im just a layperson! Arena is greater (you said yourself) if its a REAL FFA.

Real FFA in my book means no further rules or restrictions imposed on the arena than necessary. Which is pretty much how it is now. You can snipe whenever you want, even when it's not your payout, and you can collude however you like. That's freedom.
What you're talking about is a complete change from what the arena is right now, turning it into a point based tournament system? No thanks, I don't want to spend hours racing against others for the highest points.

Communicating w/ your shard mates for payout or to work together to share payouts is common sense. Granted that's an oxymoron bcuz sense is anything but common.

Do I wanna stay glued 2 my phone for a hour b4 payout ? No. Can I grab 1st or 3rd on my respective days w/ the other 2 ppl at my payout time and not have to worry ? Sure can. It's much less time intensive and far less stress. I have enuf stress irl thx.

If ppl choose to collude to ensure their spots and prevent other ppl from taking their spot at payout, that is a different approach and not as friendly, but making friends is not the object of the game and they can play however they want.

This brings us to the 3rd type of player, the worst of the 3...the 1 that won't cooperate or collude. This loathsome individual fights in the worst of venues...the forums. For some inane reason, they believe that complaining will achieve a positive result.

"Synergy;1010088" wrote:

"MrGrips;1008082" wrote:

@Synergy Earlier on the thread you said there isnt a way for devs to implement a way to stop collusion. There are ways though. One way is you could revamp arena. Make it a blind arena where you get a random enemy above you in rank within a few places, and base ranking on a point system. That's just one example.

"Synergy;1007646" wrote:

"spotremix;1007110" wrote:
when i did arena on a regular basis i did my 5 battles whenever i wanted. i don't care who's payout time it was. my goal for arena back then was to be at the best possible rank at all times.

i use to space 3 battles throughout the day and try to finish the 3rd battle around my payout time. that left me with 2 battles after my payout time and i never hesitated to use them.

as far as i'm concerned arena is every man/woman for themselves at all non cheating costs.

Collusion does not break developer "intent" nor does it violate the ToS as it is not hacking the game nor is it a form of cheating. Collusion was patched with Tournaments relatively quickly after release, whereas collusion has been allowed to continue in Arena for the entire duration of the game with the devs almost certainly knowing about it. This, if anything, is an implicit "ok" from the devs that this is working as intended. It has never changed in the past, it probably isn't going to change now, and thinking it will just because you happen to be struggling in your shard is just naive. The OP is speculating about the developer "intent" when in reality, Arena is just a Free For All environment (emphasis on All).
Consider this, you're in the Colosseum with 9 other gladiators. You sneak off to the locker room and **** on everyone else's gear, just because you feel like it. The others find out and agree to team up on you when it's time to fight.
No one is doing anything wrong here. FFA means you have the freedom to do whatever you want (**** on other people's gear). FFA also means everyone else has the freedom to do what they want (team up against you).
Actions have consequences. When you step all over other people's payouts, you're going to turn people against you. You have the freedom to play however you want within the ToS, and sniping outside your payout is not prohibited. That's fine, but you can't expect others to not have that same freedom to play how they want.

It probably breaks intent because the tutorial for the game doesnt at all mention colluding for arena, and arena has strong connotations of a true FFA. Also, saying something is intended because the developers have failed to address it is fallacious. Thats like saying tax loopholes are intended (maybe sometimes lol, but not always).

Lets make arena great. The devs can do it. I came up with a solution, maybe its subpar, but im just a layperson! Arena is greater (you said yourself) if its a REAL FFA.

Real FFA in my book means no further rules or restrictions imposed on the arena than necessary. Which is pretty much how it is now. You can snipe whenever you want, even when it's not your payout, and you can collude however you like. That's freedom.
What you're talking about is a complete change from what the arena is right now, turning it into a point based tournament system? No thanks, I don't want to spend hours racing against others for the highest points.

Nah, only 5 attemps daily like with arena was what I meant :/