Our guild is at about 65 million, and we can run through HAAT in about 24 hrs, that's still a lot of fun. The Sith Triumvirate is not fun. It's not fun at all. It's anti fun. It sucks the fun right out of the game. It's a chore. It's a massive time investment and the rewards for it wouldn't be worth that time investment if you quadrupled them. We launched a Tier 5 about a week ago and 4 days later we were half way through phase 1. Are you kidding me? We're stuck on Tier 4 and that still takes us about 2 days per phase. And the rewards for it aren't even as good as a rancor run which we can finish in 10 minutes and run almost every other day. This game isn't supposed to be a job. I've already got 2 of those. This is my escape from that. Give us a break. We all want a challenge, something that keeps the game fun and interesting. We wanted this raid to be the nice new shiny object we chase after for the next year, like Kenobi was for so many and who I'm about to unlock with or next HAAT!A ton of our guild mates have already given up trying to play the Sith Raid altogether. So Darth Traya isn't a goal any of us even think is in the future for us. I suspect most of us will quit this game long before we can ever even play the Heroic Sith, much less look forward to unlocking her. Alright, I'm done venting. Thanks anyway.

For the sith raid, some of my guild, myself included, just throw a squad in and hit auto, the mechanics are whack, same as the rewards,

"Syrup_Chugger3;c-1505843" wrote:For the sith raid, some of my guild, myself included, just throw a squad in and hit auto, the mechanics are whack, same as the rewards, Agreed. Other than guild currency, I can pretty much get the rewards on any given Tuesday.

"ProximaB1_;c-1505995" wrote:My biggest dislike us that Rey is so important. For someone who has no use for her except sith raid seems an extreme farm and gear crunch. I know everyone will say haat was the same way at first. But I disagree. Most needed characters for haat was easy farm characters. Not farm every resistance character to get the one character that will help you on this event. I'm surprised by this comparison, since Resistance teams are / were the strongest against HAAT for a long time. They were not easy farms for a lot of people. Thrawn is a difficult farm for new players. CLS and Raid Han, difficult for newer players. What you're encountering with STR is essentially a new player experience for the Pit or HAAT. I'm just at a loss for how the challenge isn't fun for people. I concede that the rewards aren't great for the amount of health you have to deal with at the lower STR levels, and I think they should reduce the health pools in tiers 1 - 5. But to say that JTR shouldn't be important seems naive. She's a Hero's journey character... If you want to do the best in new content, shouldn't it be required to have the best characters?

The raid is still pretty new:-New team compositions are still being discovered that are effective. - New characters will be released that are effective in the raid (as always)-level and gear cap raises will come and make it easier For now, it is intentionally difficult. It provides some challenging new content to top level guilds and gives lower level guilds something to work towards. Even so, top level guilds have the heroic raid on farm already. Several Alliance guilds for example, I’m sure TI, and many others as well.

"ProximaB1_;c-1506055" wrote:"Ender22;c-1506043" wrote:"ProximaB1_;c-1506038" wrote:I really don't think gp has anything to do with it being fun or not. Even if you know what your doing to get a good run takes multiple retrys to get rng on your side. My GP is 2.6 and I'm in a guild that's over 125. Not everyone on here is at 65gpThere are a lot of tries involved. But really, I don’t have to, if I don’t get the perfect run, my guild is strong enough that we can all go mediocre. But I like perfect runs, I like high scores, I do it. We are a 148mil guildI figured you were higher than me. If you have it on farm. I just pointing out even highish players can have issues with raid mechanics. tipically those issues stem from not being able to get high scores though. Things become more "fun" when you're doing good or when you're winning. That said, i always skip p1 hAAT. However, p3 was my least favourite phase, but with the toons i've got now it's p1. I assume you get the point i'm trying to make eventhough i'm probably explaning it poorly.

This was supposed to be fun, right?

XxiCOLOSSUSxX
7 years ago
For the sith raid, some of my guild, myself included, just throw a squad in and hit auto, the mechanics are whack, same as the rewards,
UnbelieverInME2
7 years ago
"Syrup_Chugger3;c-1505843" wrote:
For the sith raid, some of my guild, myself included, just throw a squad in and hit auto, the mechanics are whack, same as the rewards,

Agreed. Other than guild currency, I can pretty much get the rewards on any given Tuesday.
bcarry82
7 years ago
"ProximaB1_;c-1505995" wrote:
My biggest dislike us that Rey is so important. For someone who has no use for her except sith raid seems an extreme farm and gear crunch. I know everyone will say haat was the same way at first. But I disagree. Most needed characters for haat was easy farm characters. Not farm every resistance character to get the one character that will help you on this event.

I'm surprised by this comparison, since Resistance teams are / were the strongest against HAAT for a long time. They were not easy farms for a lot of people. Thrawn is a difficult farm for new players. CLS and Raid Han, difficult for newer players. What you're encountering with STR is essentially a new player experience for the Pit or HAAT.

I'm just at a loss for how the challenge isn't fun for people. I concede that the rewards aren't great for the amount of health you have to deal with at the lower STR levels, and I think they should reduce the health pools in tiers 1 - 5. But to say that JTR shouldn't be important seems naive. She's a Hero's journey character... If you want to do the best in new content, shouldn't it be required to have the best characters?
kello_511
7 years ago
The raid is still pretty new:

-New team compositions are still being discovered that are effective.
- New characters will be released that are effective in the raid (as always)
-level and gear cap raises will come and make it easier

For now, it is intentionally difficult. It provides some challenging new content to top level guilds and gives lower level guilds something to work towards.
Even so, top level guilds have the heroic raid on farm already.

Several Alliance guilds for example, I’m sure TI, and many others as well.
emvedebe
7 years ago
"ProximaB1_;c-1506055" wrote:
"Ender22;c-1506043" wrote:
"ProximaB1_;c-1506038" wrote:
I really don't think gp has anything to do with it being fun or not. Even if you know what your doing to get a good run takes multiple retrys to get rng on your side. My GP is 2.6 and I'm in a guild that's over 125. Not everyone on here is at 65gp

There are a lot of tries involved. But really, I don’t have to, if I don’t get the perfect run, my guild is strong enough that we can all go mediocre. But I like perfect runs, I like high scores, I do it. We are a 148mil guild

I figured you were higher than me. If you have it on farm. I just pointing out even highish players can have issues with raid mechanics.

tipically those issues stem from not being able to get high scores though. Things become more "fun" when you're doing good or when you're winning.
That said, i always skip p1 hAAT. However, p3 was my least favourite phase, but with the toons i've got now it's p1. I assume you get the point i'm trying to make eventhough i'm probably explaning it poorly.
glock30owner
7 years ago
The rewards are complete crap for time invested. It takes my guild 4 days to do T3 (it started out as 3 days) and taking longer every time. More of my guild each time are doing less and less. The raid is not fun and rewards are crap.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
Any raid that makes Magmaguard useful can't be all bad.
platzman
7 years ago
Were having fun in heroic:) 150 mil guild
TheeKvothe
7 years ago
"leef;c-1508109" wrote:

Point being, the guilds that are doing heroic are enjoying this raid a whole lot more than guilds doing t1-t5.

So much this. And for guilds that are able to farm HAAT but can't do T5 of the raid the rewards have to be downright insulting compared to the effort/time involved.

I get it. If you are in a mega-guild then the rewards are good and the raid is fun. If you are not in a mega-guild then the rewards are blah and the raid is a kill-joy.

That's how the whole game is though with rewards. One quick look at the structure for TB rewards is all you need to know that top guilds are way ahead of the rest of us and if you want to be a top player you better be in a top guild.

Or be like me and enjoy your guild and know that you won't be getting Wampa for a few years.
kello_511
7 years ago
You have to keep in mind that different players are at different points in the game. For some, rancor is still a fun challenge. Others solo it and can’t even be bothered to take part.
Believe it or not, some guilds already have a zero damage rule in place for hSith to make sure everyone gets in.

If you are still at the point where you are unlocking gk, Traya is out of reach to you for a long time. That’s by design, otherwise you would quickly run out of new challenging content and be bored.

Not every event is intended for every player.