TW Exploit

"snowhut;c-1418310" wrote:

"leef;c-1418292" wrote:

"snowhut;c-1418286" wrote:

"leef;c-1418281" wrote:
forum keeps eating my comment..

"snowhut;c-1418270" wrote:

"JoeSolo;c-1418192" wrote:
So your guild asks people to not register for TW’s? @snowhut

We just get volunteers. TW's are actually really poorly designed and boring. We have plenty of people that would just rather not do them and it actually guarantees us first place.

To be honest, i find that kinda suprising since the rewards (even when you lose) are quite usefull. Obviously you can rotate in order to get more rewards for each individual member, but judging by your comment you're not doing that (or you're trying to hide that you're doing that, i dunno).
Not sure either if you can call them boring if you're intentionally gaming the system in order to get easier wins. It looks like you're justifying your actions with an argument that is a direct result of said actions.
I'm not saying you should justify your actions, that's your own business, you can do whatever you like. I personally think it's rather lame, moreso because by doing so you're also influencing the other guild's experience negatively, but that's just my oppinion. To each their own i guess.
I feel the same way about forcing draws. My one hope is that guilds that intentionally bench players during TW face alot of guild that try force a draw. That way more guilds that just want to play TW "how it's meant to be played" face eachother instead of facing guilds that use those kind of strategies.

I'm not justifying. TW became predictable after the first iteration, now, rather than going through the added effort of forcing everyone to participate, we accept a few volunteers who would like to sit out. It's still predictable and boring, but, in the end, it's quicker, the variety of opponent teams is much greater, and it's just 50 people working together to guarantee top payout for those that care. Not much unlike the other competitive portion of the game.

No offense and i'm not trying to troll you, but it still looks like you're justifying it.
Anyway, like i said, i hope guilds that aren't using the flaws in the design to their benefit are facing eachother so that they can enjoy TW instead of getting owned by guilds that intentionally bench players or face guilds that intentionlly set a very weak defence to force a draw.

Should we instead force those that don't want to participate to register for the sake of not wanting to hurt another guild's feelings? We did that for the first 2 TWs, it turns out it's just not worth it. This approach is a result of the flawed design, the same way arena payout schemes are a result of the flaws in the arena's design, nothing more. If they revisit the way this works, fine, we won't complain at all, but until then, sorry, we have people that don't want to participate in TW and it's going to guarantee us wins.

Who said anything about hurt feelings, or forcing members to participate for that matter?
I'm not interrested in finding something to blame, or the reasons why guilds take this approach (intentionally gaming to system to ensure a win). I just hope the rest of the guilds that are not using those strategies will face eachother so that they can enjoy TW.
The arena shard chats are a slightly different issue, idealy it's beneficial for everyone. I also hope that shard chats that are actively trying to prevent others from getting top ranks get a taste of their own medicine.