Our first match was with a 52m guild the next is 59m. We sit at around 55m on tw. We wiped the floor with the last and we are getting wiped this time. Seems like we need a tighter algorithm if it's just gp based...

"Kyno;c-1375360" wrote:"B0untryHR7;c-1375356" wrote:"NicWester;c-1375325" wrote:It’s only 8m. That’s a 14% increase. High end guilds can tie easily.If a top arena team is between 105k to 90k power and if we were to say that a top team is on average 100k which on the high end. Then do the math. 8m/100k is 80 top arena teams. That is enough to fill up more than 3 full territories...8 million gp is a massive difference in terms of power and the guild with that kind of advantage will win 100% of the time. I don't have the slightest doubt about that.not all teams are created equal, a more powerful clone team is still just a clone team (under AI control). there are limits to what a team can do no matter the number associated with it. 8M-10M is really not that much.Are you kidding?? Must be messing with us right?? Lol 8-10 million difference not much? Like buddy said that's around 80-100 extra arena teams. That's not a big difference? 80-100 ARENA teams. Like we are talking cls monster teams at 100k. 80+ more of them. Lol. Ya that's super easy to deal with. Just a couple sections of all monster arena teams. No biggie right?? Lol

Here's a new rule you might want to implement when matchmaking: no guilds with a CLS can be matched with a guild with no CLS. That guy is freaking ridiculous, and should only be playing with himself. So to speak. It's always been obvious (to me, at least) that so-called "Power" is an almost completely irrelevant statistic. Here's an idea: look at all the top-tier arena squads, and backwards-engineer your "Power" metric from there. Just a thought.

Similar for us, we wiped the floor with the first, and now we are getting wiped out in this one....they have 13players over 2mil, we have 5.....not sure what total GP is as they only have 31 on SWGOH.gg

My guild only has a few players with cls and we have taken down 2 guilds with a bunch of them.

So, if a 40m GP guild has 50% sign up, they will be matched against a 20m GP guild that has 100%.That means average GP of 1.6m for one team vs average GP of 400k for the other.So you put a 1.6m player's team up against a 400k player, and it will be severely lopsided... And the total number of players is irrelevant since they can't really gang up, all fights are still 1v1.Basically by only taking in 50% of your guild you screwed the other guild.I think there should be a second criteria, looking at the average GP of all registered players. If they matched based on average player GP and total GP of all registered players then you would wind up with much less 1-sided matchups...

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Drazhar91
8 years ago
We have like a 12-13M difference and they totally destroyed us in the first 2 hours. Uh, they also left teams we kinda cannot beat in defense (and by the teams they left, one can totally desume they are wallet warriors). I don't know what devs have in their heads at this point
jdonoho
8 years ago
Some is strategy, but the stronger team has the better chance. This will never be perfect though, so just shoot for 2nd place and if you get 1st...bonus. Rewards difference between the two means little to me. If it was like 5-10 zeta for first...maybe then it’s ne worth trying hard.
BrainZEROX
8 years ago
I don’t think the guild GP matters that much in the matchmaking process. The combined GP of the participants within a guild does though. If you’re a 50M GP guild and 40/50 players registered, you may face a 40M GP guild with 50/50 participating. That is my guess because this is what happened to us.
GhostTrucking
8 years ago
"Globuhl;c-1373592" wrote:
I don’t think the guild GP matters that much in the matchmaking process. The combined GP of the participants within a guild does though. If you’re a 50M GP guild and 40/50 players registered, you may face a 40M GP guild with 50/50 participating. That is my guess because this is what happened to us.

You got it right for that part of the matching.
CorvusGER
8 years ago
"Globuhl;c-1373592" wrote:
I don’t think the guild GP matters that much in the matchmaking process. The combined GP of the participants within a guild does though. If you’re a 50M GP guild and 40/50 players registered, you may face a 40M GP guild with 50/50 participating. That is my guess because this is what happened to us.

It does indeed matter we were facing a Guild with 13mill GP advantage yes they only placed 48 people but do you really think two missing people equals 13mill GP. Needless to say we are going to loose most certainly.

This is also the second Time we are facing a stronger Guild (the first had 5 mill GP advantage, this battle ended in a tie which equals a loss).

This is starting to demorilize our Guild members, getting 2nd place rewards for a full map clear and now facing a Guild that is way stronger.

@CG_Kozispoon can we get some official word if these huge gaps are WAI?
Microfe
8 years ago
you dont know enemy guild active GP which is used to match guilds in war, unless you send a spy in there
https://i.imgur.com/m64DKt1.jpg

also looks like number of defense slots limited to number of people participating / 2 of the guild having lower number
m0kel
8 years ago
"Globuhl;c-1373592" wrote:
I don’t think the guild GP matters that much in the matchmaking process. The combined GP of the participants within a guild does though. If you’re a 50M GP guild and 40/50 players registered, you may face a 40M GP guild with 50/50 participating. That is my guess because this is what happened to us.

nope, if you have 79m gp with 50 members and 49 with a total of 77.5m gp of them sign up, you might get assigned a 49 member guild with 49 members signed up and a total gp of 87m gp ....

this is what we have to face this time :D

in comparison with our strongest members, they have additional 4 members more just by gp, needlesly to say they just marched right through our defenses :dizzy:
Player_iqu4b064
8 years ago
This idea that rewards scale solely on GP is just horrible to be honest. We have a smaller guild, and we can't get zeta mats at all. Now I understand that a harder fight should get some more rewards, but each of our members puts in a lot of effort as well. Rewards should scale with banners perhaps instead. It's not like we need zeta mats less badly than those with 120M GP.
Microfe
8 years ago
"Thien_Phong;c-1373601" wrote:
Every 10m power rewards are different , So why guild 60m if guild wins 150m does not receive guild reward 150m??? Cant answer the silence!

150m guild with 60m participating will receive reward for 60m, check the picture above, my guild has 45m and 38m participatin, reward for 38m
TheMudbutt
8 years ago
How do you look up other guild? I can’t find our Oppent in advance search.