TW matchmaking needs changing, your whole guilds GP should be the matchmaker not how many people choose to sit out.Members of your guild sitting out should not be an advantage this war were matched against a 210 mill GP and were 170 mill, 8-9 people sitting out of the war does not make up for the amount of G12 teams they will have at that GP.The current matchmaking is just asking guilds to drop people just to win.

Regardless, using total GP for matchmaking is worse than active GP. Not all guilds sandbag on purpose, using total GP would however "punish" them all.

"Paulos999;c-1768594" wrote:"leef;c-1768582" wrote:"Paulos999;c-1768531" wrote:"leef;c-1768055" wrote:Regardless, using total GP for matchmaking is worse than active GP. Not all guilds sandbag on purpose, using total GP would however "punish" them all. As oppose to how it is now rewarding guilds for people for sitting out it still needs changing.I prefer how it is now over using total GP. Using total GP won't fix anything and is also easy to manipulaI te. It's just a bad solution all around. If you give it more than a moments thought you'd probably reach the same conclusion. Maybe because your guild isn’t constantly being matched with guild 40 mill + GP above you or I’m sure you would feel differently. Maybe that only means i can look at the problem more objectively and that's why i can see it's a bad sollution.

Moved to TW category.To OP: I feel like it’s not being taken into account that less members in an active TW means less teams too. So, quality of gear/zetas aside, they also need to overinvest in their defenses, thus being left short handed to be able to accomplish full-clears on offense.

"Fauztin;c-1766936" wrote:Moved to TW category.To OP: I feel like it’s not being taken into account that less members in an active TW means less teams too. So, quality of gear/zetas aside, they also need to overinvest in their defenses, thus being left short handed to be able to accomplish full-clears on offense.Dropping 8 guys doesn’t make up for the amount of overpowered teams that these guys will have being over 4 mill + GP.Revan, clones in this case plus every other overpowered team, also why should guilds be given an advantage for dropping people? They should face people of the same GP.

The assumption is they are asked to sit out or this is an intentional action. Sometimes people just cant make it or have RL going on. Some people just dont like TW.Active GP is the beat thing to be added when this game mode came around, your guild should not be punished if you are busy.

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emvedebe
6 years ago
Regardless, using total GP for matchmaking is worse than active GP.
Not all guilds sandbag on purpose, using total GP would however "punish" them all.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"Paulos999;c-1768594" wrote:
"leef;c-1768582" wrote:
"Paulos999;c-1768531" wrote:
"leef;c-1768055" wrote:
Regardless, using total GP for matchmaking is worse than active GP.
Not all guilds sandbag on purpose, using total GP would however "punish" them all.

As oppose to how it is now rewarding guilds for people for sitting out it still needs changing.

I prefer how it is now over using total GP.
Using total GP won't fix anything and is also easy to manipulaI te. It's just a bad solution all around. If you give it more than a moments thought you'd probably reach the same conclusion.

Maybe because your guild isn’t constantly being matched with guild 40 mill + GP above you or I’m sure you would feel differently.

Maybe that only means i can look at the problem more objectively and that's why i can see it's a bad sollution.
Fauztin_ZLR
6 years ago
Moved to TW category.

To OP: I feel like it’s not being taken into account that less members in an active TW means less teams too. So, quality of gear/zetas aside, they also need to overinvest in their defenses, thus being left short handed to be able to accomplish full-clears on offense.
Shady1401
6 years ago
"Fauztin;c-1766936" wrote:
Moved to TW category.

To OP: I feel like it’s not being taken into account that less members in an active TW means less teams too. So, quality of gear/zetas aside, they also need to overinvest in their defenses, thus being left short handed to be able to accomplish full-clears on offense.

Dropping 8 guys doesn’t make up for the amount of overpowered teams that these guys will have being over 4 mill + GP.

Revan, clones in this case plus every other overpowered team, also why should guilds be given an advantage for dropping people? They should face people of the same GP.
NyKynoe
6 years ago
The assumption is they are asked to sit out or this is an intentional action. Sometimes people just cant make it or have RL going on. Some people just dont like TW.

Active GP is the beat thing to be added when this game mode came around, your guild should not be punished if you are busy.
Shady1401
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1766949" wrote:
The assumption is they are asked to sit out or this is an intentional action. Sometimes people just cant make it or have RL going on. Some people just dont like TW.

Active GP is the beat thing to be added when this game mode came around, your guild should not be punished if you are busy.

So then they should face a guild with a load of roster that’s don’t compare with a few guys missing? Therefore giving them an advantage because some of their guys can’t make it?

Seems fair
Shady1401
6 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-1767163" wrote:
"Paulos999;c-1766998" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1766949" wrote:
The assumption is they are asked to sit out or this is an intentional action. Sometimes people just cant make it or have RL going on. Some people just dont like TW.

Active GP is the beat thing to be added when this game mode came around, your guild should not be punished if you are busy.

So then they should face a guild with a load of roster that’s don’t compare with a few guys missing? Therefore giving them an advantage because some of their guys can’t make it?

Seems fair

So my 46 guild mates should face a guild with ~15M more active GP than them because 4 of us have work / wedding / funeral / vacation?

Seems fair.

Average GP of signed up member would put all these m sandbaggers against each other and would be much fairer than the total active GP that’s currently used.

You don’t work for a full 24 hours or have a wedding for a full war... but either way your point works aswell then match it by average GP, guilds also shouldn’t have this disadvantage because some members of opposing guilds are busy then works both ways.

Either way the current system just isn’t fair at all needs changing and I think your idea is pretty good tbf.
nightside187
6 years ago
TW is probably the less liked event in our guild, we try very hard to motive the groups but when you matched vs 12 million+gp 18 revans vs 3 many traya vs 0 traya many c3p0 vs 2 how can you even think too win ? especialy when you on a 4 losing steaks in row how do you motive your guys ?
DMF75
6 years ago

We’ve known for over a year that certain guilds deliberately leave out their weakest players to massage their stats to ensure a guaranteed victory.
The attached is just a typical example from today on FB.

It’s not prohibited, it’s allowed — it happens.

There is no way for anyone (including the Devs) to know if the guild you’re up against is a casual guild with on a voluntary TW signup, an active guild that’s really busy that day, or a deliberate attempt to win at all costs, including excluding their weakest members from TW in exchange for Raid shards.
MKIceman
Rising Newcomer
6 years ago
Did anyone read the sticky post about how matchmaking works? It compares strength and depth of signed up rosters. Active GP is only used for rewards bracket. It's why you shouldn't be running into 10x more Revans than what you have (unless you have appropriate counter teams). If it's not working that way or your matches have not been close regardless of GP difference, you should post some evidence of that, screenshots, etc, as the devs asked.