Unfair match-making

"Gifafi;c-2063992" wrote:
I guess this thread has taught me it's hard to beat a relic'd meta team with a 6* char team. themoreyouknow.gif

This thread has taught me that facing a squad you cannot beat is a guaranteed loss and every time I managed it I was clearly dreaming. ;)

"Arsenic710;c-2063886" wrote:

Or make better use of what you already have.

Let me know if you have the same advice for yourself when you unlock GAS and have to face him.

https://swgoh.gg/p/645592383/characters/

Top meta and OP squads like GAS are not as simple as “making better use of what you have.”

I'm not complaining here - you are. And yes, GAS has counters. You have at least 1 quite well geared counter. Try it out. If it fails, put some more relics or better mods on it. Blaming matchmaking for your own shortcomings is silly. It's hardly a Championship if wins are handed out to everyone and their grandmothers.

"Nikoms565;c-2063906" wrote:
I had a guildie who faced an R7 GAS. His was 6*. Any matchmaking that pits someone with a 37k+ GP character versus someone else who doesn't even have a single character over 30k needs some work. Counters work - but it's still a tremendous advantage.

It's fine that players who build a strong roster also have an advantage. Taking the advantage away would remove the incentive to build a strong roster from GAC.

Also having 12 mirror matches every GAC would make it boring.

I always find it amusing when people decide to argue that matchmaking works great -

OP has a counter. He can't really blame matchmaking for not trying his counter out and build it stronger if needed. That's all I'm arguing here.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2064000" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2063992" wrote:
I guess this thread has taught me it's hard to beat a relic'd meta team with a 6* char team. themoreyouknow.gif

This thread has taught me that facing a squad you cannot beat is a guaranteed loss and every time I managed it I was clearly dreaming. ;)

it was obviously consistent luck, bc that's how luck works lol

"Arsenic710;c-2063950" wrote:

"TVF;c-2063918" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2063906" wrote:
I had a guildie who faced an R7 GAS. His was 6*. Any matchmaking that pits someone with a 37k+ GP character versus someone else who doesn't even have a single character over 30k needs some work. Counters work - but it's still a tremendous advantage.

As it should be. We don't get meta toons to not have an advantage. Which isn't to say we shouldn't have to also face people that have meta squads, but those that don't have them do not deserve a handout.

Counters work. People should use them.

So you should have the handout? What’s that old saying, the rich get richer...

You and your opponent are equally "rich" (matching top-x GP).

Your advantage comes in arena for the maxed out meta squad. GAC is supposed to be competitive 1 on 1 matchups with players of the same competitive level.

When did CG announce, that they GAC is supposed to have completely even matches only? Could you throw me link or a reference, please? 6* GAS with relic clones vs. 7* GAS with relic clones - that's fairly even. How's the rest of the two rosters?

And to reiterate again, the counters take extreme relics and mods.

To reiterate:

"Waqui;c-2063860" wrote:
Alternatively, you could beat your opponent's GAS with your counter. If it's not consistent enough, build it stronger. You can't really blame matchmaking for your choice not to.

https://swgoh.gg/p/196228411/characters/

"Arsenic710;c-2063984" wrote:

"TVF;c-2063964" wrote:
Ok don't work on them then.

Maybe link your Swgoh.gg account so I can see your roster? Because I’m assuming with your attitude that you’re probably a big spender. There is a serious cost to making those counters work against full R7 501st squads. Especially for toons going past R5.

Some of us have to strategically upgrade characters to those types of levels. Even just to G12+5, then g13 is a lot. And, if I do upgrade to those levels, it will only put me against even stronger opponents.

Upgrading your counter team to higher relic levels will make you able to beat 7* GAS while having your own GAS on defense. Your choice if you do it or not.

"Arsenic710;c-2063984" wrote:

"TVF;c-2063964" wrote:
Ok don't work on them then.

Maybe link your Swgoh.gg account so I can see your roster? Because I’m assuming with your attitude that you’re probably a big spender. There is a serious cost to making those counters work against full R7 501st squads. Especially for toons going past R5.

Some of us have to strategically upgrade characters to those types of levels. Even just to G12+5, then g13 is a lot. And, if I do upgrade to those levels, it will only put me against even stronger opponents.

My gg is easily searchable.

And no I'm not a big spender. I'm strategic.

Thank you to WitnessedJarl who actually posted productive comments and didn’t just say “make your counter stronger.”

Thank you Nikoms for making the most sense because your right. EA/CG is completely inept to this game and the way it works.

"Arsenic710;c-2063905" wrote:
I also love getting the comments from the people who more than likely don’t face GAS at all. Makes sense. But that’s what the internet is nowadays. I’ll put my 2 cents in on a topic, any topic, pick a topic. I’ve got an opinion.

https://swgoh.gg/p/971433313/characters/

If you don't want people to comment on your thread, don't post it to a public forum. Besides, imo any thread that calls out mm being bad because of one singular character/team is not a valid complaint about mm, it is just a complaint about the poster not having developed their counter properly.

MM may not be perfect (what is?), but it does a much better job than it used to and imo does what it is supposed to do: match those with equal investment into the part of their roster expected to be used in the match.

My only wish is that they added more leagues to GAC (and probably a new division or two at the top end just to separate our the largest rosters). More leagues would help to differentiate those are more competitive in GAC, as currently the majority of players who participate are in the same league through the first few rounds, which doesn't truly separate players enough.

"Arsenic710;c-2064076" wrote:
Thank you to WitnessedJarl who actually posted productive comments and didn’t just say “make your counter stronger.”

He said that your 6* GAS actually can beat a 7* GAS. So, matchmaking is fine then?