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ChiizuLamb
8 years ago

Unpopular Opinion Time: Using the "Escape Strategy" (Zylo, Zavage, CLS)

In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far. I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it se...
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gauder1o
8 years ago
"Broxxor;c-1227244" wrote:
There's nothing time saving about using Zylo in P1 over - say - someone using the Kenobi Sink or an IGD Jedi counter team. It takes significantly longer.


Well, devil's advocate here but how do you propose guilds new to haat get a Kenobi sink up and running?

I think the main advantage to zylo over Kenobi is you don't require the reward for completing haat 50 times in order to complete haat the first 50 times if you use zylo.

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Opinion Time: Using the \"Escape Strategy\" (Zylo, Zavage, CLS)","id":"message:4311089","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":16,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:139123"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4311089"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4311089"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far. I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it se...","body@stringLength":"1338","rawBody":"In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far.

I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it seems like this is NOT what the developers intended. This misuse of the escape function of the game should be patched out. And there's a simple solution in my mind:

MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN ONLY ESCAPE ONCE PER CHARACTER FOR THE RAID.

That solves everything and still allows the retreat function to serve it's normal and useful purposes.

I think the HAAT was partially ruined by people exploiting this feature in the game. It promoted a lack of development on rosters for guilds relying on these methods to complete the raid and has, in my opinion, put the game in a state where people aren't even trying anymore.

If you remove the challenge from something, then it takes the fun out of it. When I see guilds recruiting or posting about their guild and saying they have the \"HAAT on farm\" and that they use Zylo to do P1 and Zavage to do p3 - it really shows how much the HAAT raid has fallen into nothingness imo. To me, those aren't HAAT ready guilds. Rather, they're guilds who are exploiting the game to get an advantage when they otherwise couldn't - which, to me, is cheating.","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-08-18T07:14:04.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4311089_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2221},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"In my opinion, it's not only an exploit - it's borderline cheating. But that's probably going a hair too far.

I've seen tons of people claiming solos on Facebook, reddit, etc - and - to me - it seems like this is NOT what the developers intended. This misuse of the escape function of the game should be patched out. And there's a simple solution in my mind:

MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN ONLY ESCAPE ONCE PER CHARACTER FOR THE RAID.

That solves everything and still allows the retreat function to serve it's normal and useful purposes.

I think the HAAT was partially ruined by people exploiting this feature in the game. It promoted a lack of development on rosters for guilds relying on these methods to complete the raid and has, in my opinion, put the game in a state where people aren't even trying anymore.

If you remove the challenge from something, then it takes the fun out of it. When I see guilds recruiting or posting about their guild and saying they have the \"HAAT on farm\" and that they use Zylo to do P1 and Zavage to do p3 - it really shows how much the HAAT raid has fallen into nothingness imo. To me, those aren't HAAT ready guilds. Rather, they're guilds who are exploiting the game to get an advantage when they otherwise couldn't - which, to me, is cheating."},"Conversation:conversation:4311089":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:4311089","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4311089"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2017-09-30T19:11:54.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2017-09-30T19:11:54.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":16,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4311089":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4311089","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:4311089_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:4311089_1","lastEditTime":"2017-08-18T07:14:04.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4311100":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:4311100","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4311089"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:55304"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":4311100,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Unpopular Opinion Time: Using the \"Escape Strategy\" (Zylo, Zavage, CLS)","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4311100"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4311089"},"body":"
\"Broxxor;c-1227244\" wrote:
There's nothing time saving about using Zylo in P1 over - say - someone using the Kenobi Sink or an IGD Jedi counter team. It takes significantly longer.


Well, devil's advocate here but how do you propose guilds new to haat get a Kenobi sink up and running?

I think the main advantage to zylo over Kenobi is you don't require the reward for completing haat 50 times in order to complete haat the first 50 times if you use zylo.

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\"Broxxor;c-1227244\" wrote:
There's nothing time saving about using Zylo in P1 over - say - someone using the Kenobi Sink or an IGD Jedi counter team. It takes significantly longer.


Well, devil's advocate here but how do you propose guilds new to haat get a Kenobi sink up and running?

I think the main advantage to zylo over Kenobi is you don't require the reward for completing haat 50 times in order to complete haat the first 50 times if you use zylo.

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