What’s Ahead?

"NicWester;c-1432114" wrote:
You're saying it's not what "we" want. So unless you're speaking on behalf of yourself and the mouse in your pocket, then I want to be clear that there are a helluva lot of people who don't want to be included in your "we."

Everyone wants to be included.

That mouse in his pocket has always been selfish.

"NicWester;c-1432114" wrote:
You're saying it's not what "we" want. So unless you're speaking on behalf of yourself and the mouse in your pocket, then I want to be clear that there are a helluva lot of people who don't want to be included in your "we."

Then take you fingers away from the keyboard

"NicWester;c-1432114" wrote:
You're saying it's not what "we" want. So unless you're speaking on behalf of yourself and the mouse in your pocket, then I want to be clear that there are a helluva lot of people who don't want to be included in your "we."

I want to be included in his we. I do find it funny though how when pressed for why she's actually a good character there's very few people that can cone up with anything other than just "well I like her and so do others. You're wrong and a meany head"

Okay...I have to say I'm really having a hard time understanding all the hate for what might be an upcoming Rose, Holdo, or both character release. Now like many of you, I'm not a huge fan of either of these 2, but I'm not a fan of them in the same way I wasn't a fan Hoth Rebel Scout or Resistance Trooper. Do you think anybody cried out "Sweet Baby Jesus, the wait is now over!!! I finally have the guy or gal in a tan helmet and jumpsuit with a rifle to add to my collection." No. Nobody did that. But guess what, Resistance Trooper has some really awesome synergy with Poe and Finn and some good abilities that really worked well on certain teams. Which ment, holy crap, Resistance teams are pretty darn good and part of the reason why is Resistance Trooper so everybody wants to get him/her now. My point here is it doesn't matter what sort of "digital wrapper" they come in aren't we all really after the skills, abilities, synergies, and possible new team combinations new characters can bring? If SWGOH released a character of one of the birds that Chewy likes to eat from TLJ and that bird had a better version of illuminated destiny, then I'm gonna farm the crap out of that bird. ;) Rose or Holdo if released would most likely be resistance and if the have some good abilities, it could create some really neat new resistance team or make existing ones even better. None of us have seen their kit yet, and until I do, I will reserve judgement. Even if I'm not a fan of the digital wrapper those abilities and skills come in ;)

"Shenanigans052;c-1432125" wrote:

"NicWester;c-1432114" wrote:
You're saying it's not what "we" want. So unless you're speaking on behalf of yourself and the mouse in your pocket, then I want to be clear that there are a helluva lot of people who don't want to be included in your "we."

I want to be included in his we. I do find it funny though how when pressed for why she's actually a good character there's very few people that can cone up with anything other than just "well I like her and so do others. You're wrong and a meany head"

well to be fair I don't really hate her lol. As any character she needs character development, Anakin was just a whiny and undtable child until episode 3 where he finally did something with it.

She's a resistance loyalist but is somewhat selfish right now because she puts her own feelings before the good of the resistance even though her sister died fighting for the resistance. I think episode 9 will have her truly choose between Finn and the resistance after gaining some more experience and understanding of what happens when they lose, she already lost her sister to the war but that's all she had. She has no one else and nothing else to live for except her connection with Finn and so to her losing him was the worst thing imaginable, when she has developed friendships and relationships with more in the resistance I think her choices will change.

Idk I try to be an optimist, she's still not my favorite character but I never judge a character until I know their story arc is over

I would have tolerated Rose interrupting Finn’s sacrifice if she had said something like, “I lost my sister, and I couldn’t bear to lose you as well.”

Instead she gives this horrible lecture about how she saved him—he didn’t need saving, he was making a selfless sacrifice for his friends. Instead of running away, he was finally committing to the Resistance and doing something incredibly selfless to help the people and cause that he had come to care about.

Rose comes along out of nowhere and interrupts that, and then has the nerve to lecture him about how you are supposed to fight for the ones you love. That’s exactly what he was doing, stu pid Rose!

I took his sacrifice as being driven by pure hate and, ultimately, would have been in vain. He would have melted before he could damage the canon and they would have one less fighter for the resistance. His anger blinded him to the truth of it. Rose saving him was a way of showing that only love will lead to victory, never hate.

Ymmv.

"WhenISayRun;c-1432300" wrote:
I took his sacrifice as being driven by pure hate and, ultimately, would have been in vain. He would have melted before he could damage the canon and they would have one less fighter for the resistance. His anger blinded him to the truth of it. Rose saving him was a way of showing that only love will lead to victory, never hate.

Ymmv.

I like this read of it. More or less how I felt watching it.

"dad2my3;c-1432277" wrote:
I would have tolerated Rose interrupting Finn’s sacrifice if she had said something like, “I lost my sister, and I couldn’t bear to lose you as well.”

Instead she gives this horrible lecture about how she saved him—he didn’t need saving, he was making a selfless sacrifice for his friends. Instead of running away, he was finally committing to the Resistance and doing something incredibly selfless to help the people and cause that he had come to care about.

Rose comes along out of nowhere and interrupts that, and then has the nerve to lecture him about how you are supposed to fight for the ones you love. That’s exactly what he was doing, stu pid Rose!

Exactly but that's what I'm saying Finn has had the progression and has grown up enough to make that choice. Rose hasn't.

I will agree with you though her ending rant was dumb.