Why change zFinn?

For those asking what rock can be used to beat the Zeta Fin Scissors. On offense I beat them every time with CLS Lead.

Han shoots first (or second half the time they have Han also) at Chewbacca
My CLS goes next, and with my Chewbacca assisting their Chewbacca dies.
My R2 puts up a smoke screen, targeting CLS so if they ever get an attack its against CLS who has foresight.
My C3PO calls Han to assist, R2 and CLS also assists, kills their Han or leaves him stunned.
My Han shoots and stuns their Han if he is still alive + my Chewbacca assist to take their Han down.
Then my Han goes again, Kills there RT or CLS or what ever with his basic + Chewbacca Assisting.
My Chewbacca goes next, Kill Fin Last.
Rarely they aren't all dead and my CLS and R2 gets a second turns before they do much.

Honestly much easier to beat than any other current meta team. You may need very good speed mods to pull this off but compared to the 320+ speed Revan & GMY teams this seems like a cake walk.

"Docx;c-1749504" wrote:
I just don’t understand why they care if a team can solo 1/4th of a raid at this point. The team and mods necessary to do this are almost exclusive to anyone who has had it on farm for so many months at this point so who the hell should care?

Raids at this point once on farm status for this length of time are as much fun as banning a ton of characters for TW. Focus your attention on anything else, it’s phase 3 I think we can all just move on.

This.

Just leave it CG, move on and ask the community to test before release possible meta-defining teams.

Don’t tinker and break something else. Plus you’ll have a lot asking for refunds because they spent on C3P0 even if it is zFinn that’s the issue.

"GrantusMaximus;c-1753293" wrote:

"Docx;c-1749504" wrote:
I just don’t understand why they care if a team can solo 1/4th of a raid at this point. The team and mods necessary to do this are almost exclusive to anyone who has had it on farm for so many months at this point so who the hell should care?

Raids at this point once on farm status for this length of time are as much fun as banning a ton of characters for TW. Focus your attention on anything else, it’s phase 3 I think we can all just move on.

This.

Just leave it CG, move on and ask the community to test before release possible meta-defining teams.

Don’t tinker and break something else. Plus you’ll have a lot asking for refunds because they spent on C3P0 even if it is zFinn that’s the issue.

This would be the dream scenario. I actually enjoy the Sith Raid now, because I know I only get one attempt in P1 (maybe 2 or 3 if I start right away), one attempt in P2, solo P3, all in about an hour. P4 can drop pretty soon, but by then I know whether I'll get Top 3 or Top 10, then decide if it's worth it.
And an auto-able HAAT is such a blessing.

"TVF;c-1751998" wrote:

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"FREEDOMfrom;c-1751939" wrote:
I have a zFinn and he seems worthless. Dies so fast. I think I must be using him wrong.

Definitely using him wrong.

On occasion I just try to use him in a resistance team. zFinn, Rey, R2, BB8 and Poe. My Poe also sucks, so that team gets blown out of the water. I'll have JTR on the 24th though so i'm not worried.

Yep there's your problem. Rey, R2, BB8....none of them expose, so you're relying on just two toons to expose. Goes bad fast.

Take out two of your choice and replace with RT and RP. Mod all for high potency and Poe for speed as well. Poe goes first, mass expose, and then watch the TM train go.

bb8 exposes quite nicely, not sure what r2 and rey have to do on that team tho lol

It's just a bunch of Revan users aggravated that someone else is able to beat them. Revan gets a huge dollop of TM based on team comp (no matter the mods). If that is not a reason to nerf him, then think of ZFinn + 3PO+ RHan + Chewie as the same. The Resistance gets a 35% to 70% TM bump (based on potency & opposing tenacity) only if they have 2 Legendary and 1 Raid Character (properly moded). And as many have commented, it's not that difficult to beat when it's defending. So much for the arena whiners.

On P3 of the Sith raid, Just give Treya stacking tenacity on expose (won't trip up JTR) or TM on expose (will trip up JTR in P3- but who's not using JTR in P1?). So this too is a tempest in a teapot. Just stop the nerfing of toons that people have farmed for, levelled and geared. It's a breach of promise, CG. And that's actionable.

How long after HPIT or HAAT release did the first phase solo happen that was allowed to continue? How long until the whole thing was beatable by 1 player? It should be part of the life cycle of a raid that eventually it's on easy farm. I know HAAT took at least 18 months before full solo was available

It's pretty insane how they released Traya and then Revan and saw nothing wrong with them and then released C3PO and believe that he is too OP in conjunction with zFinn. Sith Trio and Revan are fine but yeah C3PO is a problem. Give me a break.

It's broken, no team is meant to get infinite turn meter. All the people going don't nerf it, are people who want it to be the meta forever apparently.

"Olddumper;c-1754063" wrote:
It's pretty insane how they released Traya and then Revan and saw nothing wrong with them and then released C3PO and believe that he is too OP in conjunction with zFinn. Sith Trio and Revan are fine but yeah C3PO is a problem. Give me a break.

I'm actually enjoying the variety on my arena shard. Used to be Top 50 were 100% Traya. Then it was Revan, and Traya for those who didn't get him. Now it's CLS, Finn, Revan, and Traya (though zFinn disappears immediately due to being terrible on defense.