Why does Han shoot my Greedo first?

@MilMuertes Again, a very fair comment. I totally agree that he had to be portrayed in that light and agree more so that the parallels with Luke are there for all to see (it's that rite of passage trope I was wittering on about). My point was that it ruined some of the magic and 'menace' of Vader by showing his roots. It had to be done, I get that, but it undermines Vader's dark majesty. Explaining the Force was another component of backstory that ruined some of the magic of IV but that seemed a lot more callous.

I expect good things from Kylo but I think the casting and character himself didn't quite hit the mark. Admittedly, he was the one character they really struggled with in development. I do like that Abrams turned a Star Wars constant on its head and had a dark Jedi being tempted by the light. As one of his few innovations, it's a shame it wasn't picked up much.

Mark Hamill seemed to mature as an actor and his writing reflected it. The development of his character over three (four?) films seemed credible. The same could not be said of Christensen. I simply could reconcile his face beneath the mask... but then, I guess, it wasn't.

Kylo Ren as a character is now in a world of trouble because once again we'll get to see Vader in Rogue One. I can't help feeling that because of this, no matter how well they right him, Kylo will be stood in the shadow of the biggest bad in cinema.

I sense a great disturbance in this thread. It's like a million topics suddenly screamed out in terror and were suddenly silenced...