Even tho i prefer sith and empire. and well the DS as a whole. i am so happy that all of these rebels and other characters that we needed (had) to farm for other events are being able to be used. Not to mention the amount of LS toons that are relevant or worth using are about 2 to 3 times more of them

There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.

Well Battlefront II you play as a team of imperial/FO soldiers so..... expect them in this game

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf. We are in the same boat, and I feel the same way. There has been too much light side/Rebel love. I like light side, and I'm sitting pretty well for this, and I understand that the nature of the movies means that there are more named Rebels.But the light side tilt is hard to defend.There are 16 (soon to be 19) more light side toons than dark. Even the B and C list light side factions (like Jawas, and Ewoks) have important uses, good synergy, and special events. While the dark side sports some of the worst factions in the game. (Nightsisters, Seperatists, Bounty Hunters, Tuskans, etc)And I had the same idea about starting a board from opposite sides, using both, and meeting in the middle. That would have been great. Not trying to steal your thunder with that idea, but as you said it's "ridiculously obvious."Not trying to be too critical of this game mode yet. It looks like a lot of fun. The rewards look great. I'm excited to get into it. I'm 90% positive looking at Territory Battles. But I hope that this marks the end of Rebel love for a bit, and the beginning of some major dark side reworks, character additions, and at some point a dark side focused Territory Battles map. And that's coming from someone who has been desperate to see Mace get a beastly rework for over a year.

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/ but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS. IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.

Why Light Side is the perfect decision for TB.

emvedebe
8 years ago
To clarify, i don't enjoy every aspect of the game, but if i felt like i was constandly getting shafted i would quit.
I haven't really noticed people being shut down for not liking the fact that TB only requires LS toons only, as opposed to you trying to shut down people who try to say something positive about TB like TB most likely going to include DS in the future.
Bringing up that TB will most likely include DS characters in the future is a valid argument in a fair discussion imo.
slugbahr
8 years ago
"leef;c-1244568" wrote:
To clarify, i don't enjoy every aspect of the game, but if i felt like i was constandly getting shafted i would quit.
I haven't really noticed people being shut down for not liking the fact that TB only requires LS toons only, as opposed to you trying to shut down people who try to say something positive about TB like TB most likely going to include DS in the future.
Bringing up that TB will most likely include DS characters in the future is a valid argument in a fair discussion imo.

I've seen way too many posts along the lines of DS is in the future. Relax. Stop worrying. Stop whining. I'm not going to go looking for them now - especially out the way posts get moved around our deleted these days. Saying DS might be included in the future isn't saying something positive about TB as it currently is. That's just speculation.
Speculation of the future has nothing to do with the pros and cons of the current state of things.
Imo.
;)
JohnnySocks71
8 years ago
"BrtStlnd;c-1238928" wrote:
Since developers took the time to explain their thinking on the 12h window, I would love to hear the justification for excluding DS completely.

+1

While I love your statement, I'm sure for us dark side players the developers reasoning would be lacking.
slugbahr
8 years ago
That trailer pic tells it all.
It should say ... 'collection of light side toons'.
NicWester
8 years ago
Pretty much the only on screen battle in history where the DS won, they could've waited and done Hoth second and made it DS focused.

Guys, read the scenario prompt and the territory information--the Empire still wins on Hoth.

This Territory Battle represents the Rebel evacuation from Hoth. You "win" by escaping with your lives.
moicaliss
8 years ago
"Jinks;c-1245543" wrote:
"Gaidal_Cain;c-1245102" wrote:

It's just not fun because I play the game against the meta most of the time and Rebels have largely been meta.

I don't hate LS, I just hate playing the same thing as everyone else. Now I feel like I am being punished for it.

Whining or not that's where I am.

+1 Pecisely my situation. If everyone runs the Meta then an Arena shard is just a bunch of people with the same piles of **** and it no longer is a test of strategy. It's a measure of your mods. Which happens to be what most Arena shards look like. Again, I live with that, but up until now I didn't have any penalty in other aspects of the game for choosing to go against the grain. That is the major foul. The repeated LS boot licking sucks but at least I can choke them, shock them, annhilate them etc. to give myself some guilty pleasure at punishing the copycats. My personal choice on how to approach the Arena meta has now hurt my ability to assist my guild in the new game mode. Not cool.

Same here
soCalMikestang
8 years ago
I think this first territory battle is the whole reason we've seen so much LS love lately. I'm sure (or at least I hope) the dark side gets just as much attention in advance of the inevitable DS TB.
lisztophobia
8 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1252842" wrote:
I think this first territory battle is the whole reason we've seen so much LS love lately. I'm sure (or at least I hope) the dark side gets just as much attention in advance of the inevitable DS TB.
Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Rebels are mandatory in almost every other part of the game because from the start there was always going to be a secret plan to make them mandatory for the Hoth TB, or...

Rebels are mandatory for the Hoth TB because they were already mandatory for almost every other part of the game.
tomandshell
8 years ago
"NicWester;c-1241973" wrote:
Liking the evil characters is all well and good and go ahead and farm them, but if you're ignoring over half the characters in the game because all you want are the evil ones, then that's on you.

Exactly. The top twenty characters in my roster are pretty evenly split between light side and dark. I can't imagine trying to play this game by ignoring one side or the other. I've been leveling and gearing both sides, and would never pick just one.
billcarson1966
8 years ago
I'm personally thrilled to waste, i mean intelligently invest hard earned resources in Pao, Brody, Ugnaught, etc...