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6 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-2028110" wrote:"Malevolan;c-2028094" wrote:"JacenRoe;c-2028083" wrote:"Malevolan;c-2028064" wrote:"Waqui;c-2027963" wrote:"Malevolan;c-2027953" wrote:"Waqui;c-2027940" wrote:"Malevolan;c-2027893" wrote:"JacenRoe;c-2027760" wrote:"Malevolan;c-2027731" wrote:"Baby_Yoda;c-2027552" wrote:
He has the legal right to fight you in arena
Unless he purposely attacks you using cheats he wouldn't and shouldn't be punished.
Technically yes, but messaging someone is also legal, but a pattern of repeated messages can be harassment. So a pattern of negative behavior toward someone can also be harassment even if what they are doing is legal when it's not a deliberate pattern.
That’s silly. A pattern of legal but negative behavior? That’s your argument?
This is not harassment. ITS A COMPETITIVE GAME. You fight others in it. That’s what you signed up for. Football players are repeatedly tackled by opponents. That isn’t harassment. That’s a competition. Their agreement to be subjected to that behavior is implicit in their acceptance of that job as is yours when you download this app. So beat him and stop complaining. If he curses at you or threatens you then report him. Otherwise just try harder.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re under 30.
There's a huge difference between oh they attacked you once and they attack other people too and they sit there refreshing their match selection screen over and over and checking rankings watching for you to get in range to attack you then attack you wait for you to move ahead again, and then immediately attack you again, repeat, SINGLING YOU OUT SPECIFICALLY TO HARASS YOU.
Yes that's harassment.
According to your own story from his point of view you are the one who harassed him with false accusations. That won't change no matter how many times you tell us your side of the story here (with no proof to support it).
It's the singling someone out and repeatedly doing it that's the harassment part.
No rules are broken.
You're thinking of this as this is a rational person who just attacks as he's legally allowed to do while climbing.
Rational person? Do you think it's rational to repeat only your side of the story over and over without providing any proof? Do you think it's rational to request help from the developers, when no rules are broken? Do you think it's rational to keep getting upset by how some player plays the game, when what he does is within the rules of the game? Really? Interesting.....
That's not what he's doing.
You're not grasping how juvenile and harassing it is to literally sit at the screen hitting refresh looking for your target to hit them repeatedly over and over until they miss their payout with the expressed desire to make someone miserable, not to play the game competitively, but specifically using it as a way to do a personal grudge.
In his point of view you may be the one holding a personal grudge, until you admit your mistake and apologize for your false accusations.
False accusations?
You're ridiculous.
Am I? According to your own story that's the other guy's point of view. Your own story. If that's incorrect, I'd suggest you get your story straight, before ranting here on these forums. It appears, you don't know, which story you told us. Are you sure it's not just made up?
You can't come up with a plausible way of him climbing ranks without being in the app as he claims. Nobody can.
You're still trying to convince me (and others) by repeating your side of the story, without providing any proof to support it.
I understand, that you're upset. According to your story, the other guy is upset too. May I suggest, that you start behaving practical and rational instead?
Well for one I blocked the guy so I no longer have the conversation, but here's the thing, you're taking this guy's side when he's proposing something that is impossible (climbing without being in the app)
So yes that's ridiculous.
You claim I'm falsely accusing the guy of lying
While simultaneously accusing me of being blind and stupid and unable to read.
But even if I had proof, I wouldn't be able to post it because naming and shaming is against the TOS.
Really it doesn't matter. I don't want to make this personal. I don't care about the guy provided he grows up and stops being petty and harassing. I just want to do my arena climbs, let other people do their arena climbs, showing each other some common courtesy because of the way payout timers work.
That's it.
He's the one who is making it a personal grudge
He isn’t harassing. He’s winning.
No it's definitely harassing, I'm getting better payouts than he is. He's wasting his fights trying to prevent me from climbing but I'm climbing past him anyway. His whole goal isn't to win anything his whole goal is to be disruptive. That's what you're not getting. He's not playing pvp, he's playing griefing. He's eating losses to do it but his petty vengeance over being caught lying or sharing an account with someone is just more important to him.
To be honest, I hope something similar happens to you, I'd love to see how you deal with it once you realize there's no way you can reliably prevent someone with a personal vendetta against you from screwing with you in the game. Even if they can't beat you they can consume your time. keeping you in combat so that you can't do fights. I'd love to see your rationale if someone spent crystals to keep you in combat your entire payout hour. Never beating you, just timing out to keep you in combat.
If he frustrates you until you quit then he has one less opponent. You are enemies. It’s a competition. You are being silly, and you are wrong. You are insulting everyone who has ever been ACTUALLY bullied or harassed.
Yeah and I've been bullied, the point is not the method in which they bully but the intent behind it. For some people just being called names is bullying even though you can just ignore what they're saying. For some people being followed around online and having them say bad things about you is considered cyberbullying. It can be physical, it can be extortion, it can be damaging or breaking your things, it can be publicly writing slander about you on a wall or blackboard or anything else where people can see. It can be sexual advances.
Harassment and bullying isn't limited by whether or not the individual activity is legal or not, what makes it harassment is the malicious intent, and the persistent pattern nature of whatever act is being done. You could call someone on the phone every single day and tell them you love them and hope they have a nice day, but if they don't want you to call them, ask you to stop, and you persist doing it especially if you're intentionally doing it to upset them, that's harassment.
It's not being attacked in arena that's harassment, it's the persistence and intent of one person doing it repeatedly with the express reason of causing you grief that makes it harassment.
Look I've overseen DRB's and conflict resolution meetings for workplace harassment and I've seen some rather strange ways where a person was harassed, where you would think "well they were being nice" or "what they were doing is completely fair" until you realize how persistent it was and what the intent was. From smacking their lips chewing gum as loud as they could around one particular coworker that didn't like it, to just complimenting someone every day when they didn't want the attention.