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djohns2000
7 years ago

Arena mods- proper sets versus better speed secondaries.

While I don't wanna call myself an idiot, I've never fully grasped what my approach to modding in this game should be.

For my arena teams, I've always just thrown on whatever had the highest speed secondaries and the right primary (and if a mod with the wrong primary had a significant amount of speed attached, I made exceptions)

I'm about to switch my arena team, which means I need to make new mod loadouts. This time, I made loadouts considering sets, and it slows the team down, but gives them better mod set bonus. (like han would have crit damage instead of health as his sets)

for example my current arena team loadouts give (and keep in mind I haven't updated these in a while, so i could push them higher)

+103, +101, +100, +83

while this new set gives

+86 ,+90 ,+84 ,+73(this one has a speed set, so theres a 10% bonus attached)

should I keep these new mods, making the team slower but better at everything else? Or should I keep my OG train of thought and just go for speeeed?

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  • DVZR's avatar
    DVZR
    7 years ago
    "TVF;c-1735737" wrote:
    But why put in all that work when it's easier to just complain about matchmaking?


    I know, right?

    I always suspected but could not be sure that even my trash teams performed better than averge in TW because of mods but its harder to quantify. But with GA you know exactly what is being thrown at you and exactly what their stats are.

    Its modding, plain and simple. Literally the most important part of the game.
  • Vaderizer's avatar
    Vaderizer
    Seasoned Ace
    7 years ago
    "VonZant;c-1735685" wrote:

    On advice of Guildy, I finally went through all my mods. I hit the cap every week. A good game new years resolution.

    On all mods that didn't show speed, I Levelled purple to 3, blue to 6, green to 9. Locked every one with a speed secondary, large offense, crit or protection/health or some other crazy number. (Like a 9% tenacity or 8% potency, 2000 protection, 1000 health secondary). Saved all gold mods, even bad ones, for an emergency but did not level the bad ones. Sold everything else that wasn't already levelled to 15. It took forever and cost me a few mil but cleared out a few hundred mods.



    I did the same recently. I ended up almost a million credits in the black from selling so many gray/unworthy mods, which was a nice unexpected windfall.

    "VonZant;c-1735751" wrote:
    "TVF;c-1735737" wrote:
    But why put in all that work when it's easier to just complain about matchmaking?

    I always suspected but could not be sure that even my trash teams performed better than averge in TW because of mods but its harder to quantify.


    I've been blown away by the abysmal speed on some of my GA opponents' "good" squads, and conversely how many defensive victories I get with teams I don't consider all that fast. My 70k team of Ackbar, Princess Leia, ST Han, Wedge, and Royal Guard (lol), all around gear 9, took my current opponent three attempts to down. My 65k Phoenix have 2 wins and are still standing.

    Just goes to show you how few people actually read forums and watch videos to learn how to optimize their stuff, I guess.
  • djohns2000's avatar
    djohns2000
    7 years ago
    the current team, with higher speeds, is a EP team. I guess speed is more important because they need to get those debuffs out before they get knocked around. The sets are all over the place. Health mostly, but theres tenacity and crit chance and maybe potency in there somewhere. I think some of it actually worked out well, but again it's mostly health

    the proposed team is a CLS team. So crit damage and to a lesser extent crit chance sets would make a bigger difference on that team
  • Da_Bauers's avatar
    Da_Bauers
    Seasoned Ace
    7 years ago
    Nothing worse than clicking on people in your arena shard and they have a G12 Vader with 6E mods rocking about 140-150 TOTAL speed.

    Well, worse for them, good for me. ;)

    I'm glad your Vader has 60kn protection but I hit him four times before he took a single turn...
  • ImTheChampion13's avatar
    ImTheChampion13
    7 years ago
    It honestly depends on which toon you're trying to mod. For example, CLS, I mod for speed first, potency second, and then whatever else I can get after that. I'd make sure he has a matching speed set, but his other two mods don't need to match if they can't. Auto taunting tanks, on the other hand, don't need speed as much, so I'd make sure they had the appropriate matching sets/desired primaries.

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\"TVF;c-1735737\" wrote:
But why put in all that work when it's easier to just complain about matchmaking?


I know, right?

I always suspected but could not be sure that even my trash teams performed better than averge in TW because of mods but its harder to quantify. But with GA you know exactly what is being thrown at you and exactly what their stats are.

Its modding, plain and simple. Literally the most important part of the game.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-12-31T09:24:35.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-31T09:24:35.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en/message:3698475/message:3698486","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:13":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:13","position":24,"name":"Seasoned Ace","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:67719":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:67719","uid":67719,"login":"Vaderizer","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-04-28T11:28:11.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://eaavatarservice.akamaized.net/production/avatar/prod/1/599/416x416.JPEG"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:67719"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698487":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3698487","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3698487":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:67719"},"id":"message:3698487","revisionNum":1,"uid":3698487,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3698475"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3698475"},"subject":"Re: Arena mods- proper sets versus better speed secondaries.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698487"},"body":"
\"VonZant;c-1735685\" wrote:

On advice of Guildy, I finally went through all my mods. I hit the cap every week. A good game new years resolution.

On all mods that didn't show speed, I Levelled purple to 3, blue to 6, green to 9. Locked every one with a speed secondary, large offense, crit or protection/health or some other crazy number. (Like a 9% tenacity or 8% potency, 2000 protection, 1000 health secondary). Saved all gold mods, even bad ones, for an emergency but did not level the bad ones. Sold everything else that wasn't already levelled to 15. It took forever and cost me a few mil but cleared out a few hundred mods.



I did the same recently. I ended up almost a million credits in the black from selling so many gray/unworthy mods, which was a nice unexpected windfall.

\"VonZant;c-1735751\" wrote:
\"TVF;c-1735737\" wrote:
But why put in all that work when it's easier to just complain about matchmaking?

I always suspected but could not be sure that even my trash teams performed better than averge in TW because of mods but its harder to quantify.


I've been blown away by the abysmal speed on some of my GA opponents' \"good\" squads, and conversely how many defensive victories I get with teams I don't consider all that fast. My 70k team of Ackbar, Princess Leia, ST Han, Wedge, and Royal Guard (lol), all around gear 9, took my current opponent three attempts to down. My 65k Phoenix have 2 wins and are still standing.

Just goes to show you how few people actually read forums and watch videos to learn how to optimize their stuff, I guess.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2018-12-31T11:40:40.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-31T11:40:40.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en/message:3698475/message:3698487","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698488":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3698488","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3698488":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:141349"},"id":"message:3698488","revisionNum":1,"uid":3698488,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3698475"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3698475"},"subject":"Re: Arena mods- proper sets versus better speed secondaries.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698488"},"body":"the current team, with higher speeds, is a EP team. I guess speed is more important because they need to get those debuffs out before they get knocked around. The sets are all over the place. Health mostly, but theres tenacity and crit chance and maybe potency in there somewhere. I think some of it actually worked out well, but again it's mostly health

the proposed team is a CLS team. So crit damage and to a lesser extent crit chance sets would make a bigger difference on that team","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-12-31T16:29:47.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-31T16:29:47.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en/message:3698475/message:3698488","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:78091":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:78091","uid":78091,"login":"Da_Bauers","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-05-10T10:25:33.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1721239660000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:78091"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698489":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3698489","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3698489":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:78091"},"id":"message:3698489","revisionNum":1,"uid":3698489,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3698475"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3698475"},"subject":"Re: Arena mods- proper sets versus better speed secondaries.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698489"},"body":"Nothing worse than clicking on people in your arena shard and they have a G12 Vader with 6E mods rocking about 140-150 TOTAL speed.

Well, worse for them, good for me. ;)

I'm glad your Vader has 60kn protection but I hit him four times before he took a single turn...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-12-31T17:37:12.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-31T17:37:12.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en/message:3698475/message:3698489","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:102494":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:102494","uid":102494,"login":"ImTheChampion13","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-05-28T07:27:36.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1721239660000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:102494"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698490":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3698490","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3698490":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:102494"},"id":"message:3698490","revisionNum":1,"uid":3698490,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-strategy-and-tips-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3698475"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3698475"},"subject":"Re: Arena mods- proper sets versus better speed secondaries.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3698490"},"body":"It honestly depends on which toon you're trying to mod. For example, CLS, I mod for speed first, potency second, and then whatever else I can get after that. I'd make sure he has a matching speed set, but his other two mods don't need to match if they can't. 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