Bastilla Shan Fallen... Sith back in the game?

@FailingCrab here's the video : https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/9xba7j/trio_thrawn_fallen_bast_beat_revan_team_on_arena/ (in reddit, with explanations and mods)
as you can see, Jolee actually resist the stun from Bast. im not sure if its just the 15%, but if not, this is exactly why mass potency xD

Wow. The whales are gonna be pi...ummm...highly annoyed. :D

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696582" wrote:
yea, i was mistaken.
let me correct. as said above, her utility is debuffs. problem is to inflict those. but if she go right after sion, no problem to inflict. traya give her potency, stack more potency and all good.
this is my team : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609057056620554/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-34-18-657_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
this is my bast : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609055584288768/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-33-22-155_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512611600398680074/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-55-14-713_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png
as you can see... g8, 3*, one omega, high potency, bad speed (she need to go AFTER sion)
ended up like this vs a guy who i consider top5 team in my shard. an obvious, strong counter. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337366100033536001/512609056238862348/Screenshot_2018-11-15-14-37-18-847_com.ea.game.starwarscapital_row.png


so yea, i was wrong. she can counter vs Revan. just need tanky traya, and faster Sion. then DN do his thing perfectly, while bast cripples them all. enjoy.

Yeah that makes more sense than Revan lead.

"Nikoms565;c-1696650" wrote:
Wow. The whales are gonna be pi...ummm...highly annoyed. :D

Let's hope. Wonder if 2 week metas are the thing now lol.

Nevermind. Honestly, against launch shard Revan/Jolee teams, she's not good. Dies way too easily and if you mod her for potency, she's too slow to be useful. Maybe at higher gear/star levels she'll be viable - but not at 3* g9 at least - not even close.

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696627" wrote:
@FailingCrab here's the video : https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/9xba7j/trio_thrawn_fallen_bast_beat_revan_team_on_arena/ (in reddit, with explanations and mods)
as you can see, Jolee actually resist the stun from Bast. im not sure if its just the 15%, but if not, this is exactly why mass potency xD

Fair! I guess she's never going to need to be the damage dealer so focusing potency is no bad thing.

"CCyrilS;c-1696667" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1696650" wrote:
Wow. The whales are gonna be pi...ummm...highly annoyed. :D

Let's hope. Wonder if 2 week metas are the thing now lol.

I wouldn't say this stops revan being meta, revan squads should still be able to win on offence. My main concern is how much she pushes everything that's not revan/sith further out of the meta. CLS/Chewie will struggle with the reduced counter and crit chance, as will JTR. There's not really anything else in my arena except a couple of NS, which already struggle against traya

"Nikoms565;c-1696919" wrote:
Nevermind. Honestly, against launch shard Revan/Jolee teams, she's not good. Dies way too easily and if you mod her for potency, she's too slow to be useful. Maybe at higher gear/star levels she'll be viable - but not at 3* g9 at least - not even close.

Im at launch shard, and im able to beat Revans. surely its not good on this level for defense, but for offense, it does it.
and she dont need speed to be useful, and you dont care if shes not tanky. the facts are this:
Revan will focus Traya. if you have a tanky traya, and even lucky enough to TM swap with thrawn or heal her with Sion' AoE, its even better. So you know Revan will focus traya, and you want to make her survive. if she survive until bast turn, she'll probably survive whole match (-30% cc combined with 40% crit avoidance means no critical hits unless ezra)
Bast dont need to do much. she do 0 damage, but she bring lot of utility. the debuffs she spread are great. even if she does 1 turn (and in that turn, she'll inflict Corrupted BM and almost guaranteed 1 stun) - it will allow DN to do his thing. thats because Thrawn is there and fracture + the debuffs from bast is slowing the revan team really well. and slow enemy team means annihilates for DN.
so you know they'll focus traya- make traya tanky to slow them down. then, fracture, Pain, CorruptedBM, stun - to slow them down even more. DN will do the rest.
saying it wont work against "launch shard Revan" is simply not true. sent already a proof that it is.
obviously im using Revan on def and in general, and i did this just to check for TW offense (and it works, and therefore its good enough for me), but if people are searching for some cheese solution to beat even the best Revan teams - Fallen Bast, at 3*, g8, with lousy 200 speed and combined 20K HP+Protection, when combined with Trio+Thrawn, is good enough to beat top revan teams. period.

"SithTrio_PO;c-1696936" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1696919" wrote:
Nevermind. Honestly, against launch shard Revan/Jolee teams, she's not good. Dies way too easily and if you mod her for potency, she's too slow to be useful. Maybe at higher gear/star levels she'll be viable - but not at 3* g9 at least - not even close.

Im at launch shard, and im able to beat Revans. surely its not good on this level for defense, but for offense, it does it.
and she dont need speed to be useful, and you dont care if shes not tanky. the facts are this:
Revan will focus Traya. if you have a tanky traya, and even lucky enough to TM swap with thrawn or heal her with Sion' AoE, its even better. So you know Revan will focus traya, and you want to make her survive. if she survive until bast turn, she'll probably survive whole match (-30% cc combined with 40% crit avoidance means no critical hits unless ezra)
Bast dont need to do much. she do 0 damage, but she bring lot of utility. the debuffs she spread are great. even if she does 1 turn (and in that turn, she'll inflict Corrupted BM and almost guaranteed 1 stun) - it will allow DN to do his thing. thats because Thrawn is there and fracture + the debuffs from bast is slowing the revan team really well. and slow enemy team means annihilates for DN.
so you know they'll focus traya- make traya tanky to slow them down. then, fracture, Pain, CorruptedBM, stun - to slow them down even more. DN will do the rest.
saying it wont work against "launch shard Revan" is simply not true. sent already a proof that it is.
obviously im using Revan on def and in general, and i did this just to check for TW offense (and it works, and therefore its good enough for me), but if people are searching for some cheese solution to beat even the best Revan teams - Fallen Bast, at 3*, g8, with lousy 200 speed and combined 20K HP+Protection, when combined with Trio+Thrawn, is good enough to beat top revan teams. period.

Maybe on your shard. I've run her twice - modded the same way you suggest and both times I lost to mediocre Revan teams I almost always beat. Bastila dies too easily, does no damage and any minor debuff she lands disappears in 5 seconds with all of the cleanses. I wish she worked like in your one video - but I'm beginning to think that was just good RNG, as I got crushed by two teams I almost always beat.

Well saying she's not worthy at 3* g9, isnt the same as saying she's bad. How many toons can hang at that level?

Lol - okay, so after posting the above, I decided to give the Basty in Black one more shot and beat one of the harder Revans on my shard. Maybe she's solid, but VERY RNG dependent. All of that is to say, I'm not sure on her yet.