Who is using teams without Hound’s Tooth and beating teams that have him?I’ve never liked it when you *must* have a certain ship to do well in ships. It used to be Biggs, and at one time Tie Reaper before the big ships change. Now in my shard it’s HT. I use one team that works and can get me to #1, but now that everyone has a 7* HT it’s getting harder. My stating lineup is Umbaran, Sunfac, and Tie Fighter. First reinforcement is Wedge. Second is usually Vader. Capital ship is Tarkin. Umbaran and SF take a beating but stay alive. Wedge shuts down HT long enough to destroy him. After that it just depends on how good or bad of shape my guys are in. It works well enough but not always. And it gets a bit boring running the same team in the same order battle after battle. I’ve been experimenting but unless I put a couple tanks up front in the beginning, one of my ships is dead before their HT is destroyed and it’s basically game over. For the heck of it I farmed Sith Fighter to 7* and maxes out pilot but she seems useless. A sith team doesn’t seem to work agains any HT team. What have you had success with?

Geo spy mass assist plus soldier assist call usually kills it, that or a big crit from Vader

There are several ways to take HT out quite fast, but it strongly depends on what else your opponent has.E.g. Vader (w/ offense up) needs few shots, Silencer's special (if he has loaded few stacks) can one-shot HT. You can also use Cassian's ship as RI to remove all buffs or buff immunity by ITF's special.

KRCS as first reinforcement. Strip buffs off Houndstooth, inflict healing immunity and ability block, and remove TM. TIE Silencer has usually built up a bunch of stacking offense by then through target lock attacks etc. Use his special with advantage, 150-185k damage. 7* HT dead. If it almost kills him, pass KRCS next turn back to silencer, advantage automatically plus cooldown reduced. Special again.KRCS is essentially like having a second capital ship on your side with the amount you can manipulate TM and buffs.

RNG always interferes with the best laid plans unfortunately. No guaranteed way to win 100% of the time.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1725063" wrote:"NicWester;c-1724659" wrote:Geonosians take him down like nothing. The thing you have to remember is that just because the AI always opens with Thrawn’s AoE doesn’t mean you should—use the heal that also buffs your ships. Geonosian Spy and Soldier with Offense Up means whichever goes first, Hound’s Tooth won’t go more than once.I don't doubt that under some circumstances this is true, but it's far from universal. The one guy in my shard who's been running Geos this whole time switched to HT like the rest of the shard. That's pretty telling.I dunno what it's like running Geos on offense against HT, but I know when I see a Geo team, I'm like "score, guaranteed win." Their inability to dispel taunts really hurts them.I did manage to lose against a Geo team once, but they hit the absolute perfect storm of every assist firing at once and everything being a crit, which did manage to blow up Bossk. Usually he just laughs while they plink away at him.I've also seen a couple Geo users switch to HT and climb considerably higher because of it, so yeah.

Beating Hound’s Tooth teams without Hound’s Tooth?

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DVZR
8 years ago
I dont know about other shards, but mine has evolved to where I now think Thrawn or Mace is the best capital, instead of Tarkin. Geo fleets are suffering.

People are running triple tanks. HT in Starting and Biggs and SF or Clone Trooper off of the bench. You can't burn through their roster. In top 25 I always get to my 3rd reinforce and sometimes my 4th.

You have to have the healing to tank damage long enough to get to your super to Kill HT. You also have to have the damage to kill the 2nd and 3rd tanks that come from the bench. Thrawn works best for me.

I run: Ghost, Biggs, Vader --> Phantom, Cassian, Landos Falcon, Boba. Landos Falcon is my personal MVP, but your milage may vary.

Boba is now going to be banished from my lineup for the second time. He's too squishy and doesnt offer enough burst damage. I may try Lil Ahsoka or an undergeared Plo.
trystanspyder
8 years ago
Boba can still be a decent reinforcement under Ackbar. Bonus protection + retribution + crit immunity makes him supremely annoying for a turn or three. He can also be rather dangerous if Ackbar gets to his ultimate and Boba can drop that bomb twice. Goes right under protection and can ruin HT.

But yes, people are running several tanks and battles are starting to drag.
tvsfrink
8 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1725226" wrote:
"TVF;c-1725220" wrote:

What's this "switching" business? Most on my shard use both.

You mean HT in place of Sun Fac with a pair of geos? Yeah.

My guy went from Geo Trio to the same HT/Vader/Silencer that most of the shard seems to have adopted. Not sure why. I've seen one or two with Sun Fac as a reinforcement (they seem to think that Sun Fac/Biggs/Boba will slow me down enough to time out? I dunno), but the other two Geos are nowhere to be seen.

Yes there's some HT Vader Silencer, but more are using HT Spy Soldier with Sun Fac as first RI.
trystanspyder
8 years ago
"TVF;c-1725249" wrote:
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1725226" wrote:
"TVF;c-1725220" wrote:

What's this "switching" business? Most on my shard use both.

You mean HT in place of Sun Fac with a pair of geos? Yeah.

My guy went from Geo Trio to the same HT/Vader/Silencer that most of the shard seems to have adopted. Not sure why. I've seen one or two with Sun Fac as a reinforcement (they seem to think that Sun Fac/Biggs/Boba will slow me down enough to time out? I dunno), but the other two Geos are nowhere to be seen.

Yes there's some HT Vader Silencer, but more are using HT Spy Soldier with Sun Fac as first RI.

Must be a shard thing. Not a lot of geos in my shard (aside from the one guy who ditched them).
tvsfrink
8 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1725250" wrote:
"TVF;c-1725249" wrote:
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1725226" wrote:
"TVF;c-1725220" wrote:

What's this "switching" business? Most on my shard use both.

You mean HT in place of Sun Fac with a pair of geos? Yeah.

My guy went from Geo Trio to the same HT/Vader/Silencer that most of the shard seems to have adopted. Not sure why. I've seen one or two with Sun Fac as a reinforcement (they seem to think that Sun Fac/Biggs/Boba will slow me down enough to time out? I dunno), but the other two Geos are nowhere to be seen.

Yes there's some HT Vader Silencer, but more are using HT Spy Soldier with Sun Fac as first RI.

Must be a shard thing. Not a lot of geos in my shard (aside from the one guy who ditched them).

Definitely could be a shard thing. I've heard of many shards with a lot of Mace's now. We still have just a single in the top 50 and he never gets above 20. I'm reasonably sure I'm lucky to be on one of the less active shards, I rarely fall out of top 20, sometimes stay in top 10.

*knocks on virtual wood*
DzakYesa
8 years ago
I always had an easy time beating 5*,6* and sometimes 7* HT with TIE Silencer. First it needs to attack at least 2 target locked ship/get attacked 2 times, then if you use the Chimaera or Executrix give some offense up, then make sure to hit HT while it's at <50% TM to get advantage, bam he's gone. It gets better when you put the Silencer as backup with Executrix since it got permanent 25% offense and retribution for a bigger chance to gain advantage.
This may sound overly complicated, but boy this ship kills HT with 200k+ damage, minimum.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
"Black_Libra;c-1726258" wrote:
I always had an easy time beating 5*,6* and sometimes 7* HT with TIE Silencer. First it needs to attack at least 2 target locked ship/get attacked 2 times, then if you use the Chimaera or Executrix give some offense up, then make sure to hit HT while it's at <50% TM to get advantage, bam he's gone. It gets better when you put the Silencer as backup with Executrix since it got permanent 25% offense and retribution for a bigger chance to gain advantage.
This may sound overly complicated, but boy this ship kills HT with 200k+ damage, minimum.

Silencer-with-Advantage is also my preferred HT elimination method. I use First Order TIE also, and if you get a target lock on it, repeated Strafes can damage it through the protection as well.
trystanspyder
8 years ago
Silencer is definitely a threat if left alone long enough. It's why I prefer to remove it early. Hit it with breach too to bring its Offense down.

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