Can I dump Phoenix Squad?

"Zippy_3000;c-2010993" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2010987" wrote:
You are not being matched based on total GO, but the GP of your top X characters.

Based on your other post, you are in division 3. If you have a G8-10 Phoenix, they will probably have little to no impact on your matches when the top GP is taken into consideration. If, by any chance, they are G12, they can still be a valid team in your current division.

Either way, there is no point 'dumping' them from your roster.

They’re all gear 12. They’re useless.

If you put them on defence, they are 1 shotted. Using them for offense is a waste of effort- they don’t beat anyone without a 12-15k margin

And in that case it's a choice that you have made at some point that you can't just revoke. Your choices matter long term in this game and it takes time to correct the 'mistakes' you regret.

In this case, Phoenix pulling you backwards will be phased out gradually as you surpass their GP with the top of your roster.

"Zippy_3000;c-2010993" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2010987" wrote:
You are not being matched based on total GO, but the GP of your top X characters.

Based on your other post, you are in division 3. If you have a G8-10 Phoenix, they will probably have little to no impact on your matches when the top GP is taken into consideration. If, by any chance, they are G12, they can still be a valid team in your current division.

Either way, there is no point 'dumping' them from your roster.

They’re all gear 12. They’re useless.

If you put them on defence, they are 1 shotted. Using them for offense is a waste of effort- they don’t beat anyone without a 12-15k margin

Last night I tried and failed to solo a Phoenix team with my Wampa. All I did was take out Chopper. They had no zetas, and were a couple of gear levels below me. Not totally useless.

Also, what ships you running?

"Nauros;c-2011005" wrote:

"MagicMatthews99;c-2010999" wrote:

"Zippy_3000;c-2010993" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2010987" wrote:
You are not being matched based on total GO, but the GP of your top X characters.

Based on your other post, you are in division 3. If you have a G8-10 Phoenix, they will probably have little to no impact on your matches when the top GP is taken into consideration. If, by any chance, they are G12, they can still be a valid team in your current division.

Either way, there is no point 'dumping' them from your roster.

They’re all gear 12. They’re useless.

If you put them on defence, they are 1 shotted. Using them for offense is a waste of effort- they don’t beat anyone without a 12-15k margin

Last night I tried and failed to solo a Phoenix team with my Wampa. All I did was take out Chopper. They had no zetas, and were a couple of gear levels below me. Not totally useless.

Also, what ships you running?

Failed to solo =/= useful def team.

It is, in fact, can be extremely useful. If you can trick your opponent to believe he can solo a team (or undersize it) and he actually can't - it's the very good move.

"Zippy_3000;c-2011006" wrote:

"RandomSithLord;c-2010996" wrote:

And in that case it's a choice that you have made at some point that you can't just revoke. Your choices matter long term in this game and it takes time to correct the 'mistakes' you regret.

In this case, Phoenix pulling you backwards will be phased out gradually as you surpass their GP with the top of your roster.

Yeah, a choice I made when JKR and DR/malek weren’t in the game. So, new players have an advantage right? Hence my suggestion: let us dump crap off of our roster..

What advantage? If anthing, you had a headstart on getting JKR and DR that new players did not. You already had certain characters farmed and geared that new players still need to work on. You can't possibly think that it's easier for them to get Malak than it is for you.

Maybe try re-modding your squads. If modded correctly, G12 Phoenix should be viable still in Division 3 for either offense or defense (more for offense because they regen health and protection to get you more banners). Also, you mention that you are giving up on ships because you can’t afford to get the Millieniun Falcon? All you have to do is farm a few bounty hunter ships and you can get him without spending anything. The point of GAC is to be able to put the roster you have built to the test against other players. If you can’t win a matchup, then it just shows that you were either worse at playing the game or worse at building your roster or both. I agree that a league system with relegation and promotion would be cool, but right now it is based on GP so we adjust to that. My advice to you is find a way to win with what you have (maybe look up some counters online) and start working toward getting some of the characters you struggle to beat. If you want to just be able to win, check out Galactic War, that might have what you are looking for.

"RandomSithLord;c-2011023" wrote:

What advantage? If anthing, you had a headstart on getting JKR and DR that new players did not. You already had certain characters farmed and geared that new players still need to work on. You can't possibly think that it's easier for them to get Malak than it is for you.

Except for the new players who just used $$$ to take a short cut though right? Well, they paid for that advantage so.. but I forgot- you can’t ever mention the advantage of spending money here without a ton of fanboys defending the game so I’ll leave that one alone..

Clearly I’m not talking about players who just started.. just players who probably weren’t playing 4 years ago, and who haven’t wasted resources on toons that are, let’s be honest, no longer relevant. Wiggs, Phoenix, ackbar, etc.. (all at gear 12) they inflate my GP, yet they offer no real value in a match I’m in against someone who has a similar GP, but has toons that are more current / relevant.

You just admitted it - telling me I have to wait until the evolution of the game washes the Phoenix squad further into irrelevancy then they already are. So I’m penalized for “making those choices” whereas someone newer who doesn’t bother with them isn’t.

“Can’t afford” the Falcon? LOL.

"EventineElessedil;c-2011115" wrote:
To commiserate with OP, I have been playing since launch and don't have the Falcon either. Sure just get the BH ships, no problem. If it were not for the other heroes I need for geo TB, I would do just that. Hard node farms take forever.

If you aren't refreshing, sure.

Yes, getting the BH ships should be no problem for any launch player.

"EventineElessedil;c-2011115" wrote:
To commiserate with OP, I have been playing since launch and don't have the Falcon either. Sure just get the BH ships, no problem. If it were not for the other heroes I need for geo TB, I would do just that. Hard node farms take forever.

It's 3 ships to get Falcon (since Slave 1 you should've had Slave 1 way in advance), for which you needed to get 95 blueprints a piece to unlock.The ships have been farmable for almost a year now, with Falcon defining the fleet meta for the vast majority of this year. There was plenty of time to farm them before geo tb even existed.

"Zippy_3000;c-2011028" wrote:
Clearly I’m not talking about players who just started.. just players who probably weren’t playing 4 years ago, and who haven’t wasted resources on toons that are, let’s be honest, no longer relevant. Wiggs, Phoenix, ackbar, etc.. (all at gear 12) they inflate my GP, yet they offer no real value in a match I’m in against someone who has a similar GP, but has toons that are more current / relevant.

You just admitted it - telling me I have to wait until the evolution of the game washes the Phoenix squad further into irrelevancy then they already are. So I’m penalized for “making those choices” whereas someone newer who doesn’t bother with them isn’t.

Players who started 2 years ago have much more of a reason to have a g12 Phoenix team than players who started 4 years ago. For those of us playing 4 years, Phoenix has NEVER been meta--they came out during Zaul/triple-cleanse. The primary usage was to get Thrawn, and then a couple of missions in LS Hoth (which certainly didn't require g12 to complete). Even for fleet, they weren't part of any meta until Falcon (which you don't have). For those playing 2 years, Phoenix was the recommended starter team for pretty much everything--arena, gw, etc...

As far as the penalization, it's not a new vs. old player issue. You made a choice, at some point, to put your phoenix team to g12. Not sure when or why, but at that time there wasn't content out there that required a g12 phoenix team to beat. But you chose to put them to that gear level for some reason. At that point in time, presumably they provided you with value, and you reaped some rewards as a result.

However, given your other posts regarding GAC, allowing you to "dump" characters won't change your GAC outcomes. If you don't put in at least some time to figure out how counters work, to make sure you have decent mods, etc..., dumping characters will simply put you in a lower GP grouping where you will face the exact same situations you are now--opponents who outplay you and beat you.

"Zippy_3000;c-2011015" wrote:
Hopefully, your crappy comment makes you feel better about yourself.

Yes - it does ... I like making crappy comments in crappy threads.