8 years ago

Can I really replace my 12k Sidious with 6k Thrawn (arena)

I run a DN team in arena. Currently DN, EP, Sidious, Dooku, DV. Totals up to 61k power, which is a little over a tenth of my total GP. (Point is, max level but not near end game)

SiT needs a couple of stars (and maybe some gear) to jump in and replace someone
Rex needs some levels and gear before (some stars would help too) and will probably jump in sooner than SiT

I sit around the 500s right now in my shard. I think it's an older shard seeing as I quit the game and came back (I remember when the stores weren't connected and I remember when boba didn't use his gun)

Usually my arena fights are decided within the first couple turns as everyone throws that first round of debuffs. Who gets stunned or ability blocked. (why I want Rex). Note- My first zeta is probably my highest priority, but it's not within sight. Big oof on my part.

Sid is easily the least valuable member of the team. The healing immunity is occasionally useful, but if Sid is able to strut his stuff it's because more important members are doing there job. Most offensives end with him falling dying very quickly and it's like I might of well came in with 4. When he does go it's not the big of a deal.

I just so happened to look at his how much he can take before he falls. 4k protection (converted to health) and 11k health. 147 speed. (He sucks and my mod situation is laughable, so he literally has just 3 mods. I wish I had spare cantina energy and credits to fix it) The best I've got from him is him dodging Jedi attacks.

After looking at him I decided to check out Thrawn. A priority to level because he's cool and meta, but not that high of a priority because events and characters that are more important at the moment. Thrawn is 2 stars, one gear level, and almost 20 levels behind Sid.

Thrawn has 3k protection, 11k health, and 150 speed with no mods. While his offensive and ability to survive will probably be just as sad, he's got fracture and can pick a more important ally to go (likely Palp or DN) while dispelling (no protection tho...). I think that when he goes, it'll be more effective than when Sid does. I didn't bother looking at either toons defenses.

So this post is so I can ask- am I right about Thrawn having more of an impact that Sid will? If he does, I'll shoot him up a bit further up the priorities ladder. If he's better, I'll get him up right after my current r2 crisis is over. I'll even either move my one (relatively) good speed arrow on him or farm up a new one. (which will delay pheonix's ascent into 7 star land. enter picture of palp saying ironic here)

what I have, if it helps- https://swgoh.gg/u/deeziee/collection/

16 Replies

OpticGK_Alex
8 years ago
Well, thrawns probably needs to be a higher level, but you would need Sith trooper or a tank to keep enemies away from him so he can fracture.
djohns2000
8 years ago
I tried SiT at what I have him at now, which is 3 stars and only a few gear peices behind the others (not an entire level) and it was laughable. He wasn't tanky at all. I don't know if it was the lack of gear, mods or stars that led him to suck so much but Sidious was actually better. Like I actually dropped from 500 something to 730 on D that day. SiT will get better and will replace Sid, but I think I'm going to star him up first.

In arena both Thrawn and Sid will be lucky to get a move in as it stands right now. But I think Thrawn's one move will help much more than Sid's. Kinda asking for confirmation.

And like I said I'll put some stuff into Thrawn if I decide to go with him.
andrewcarled
8 years ago
Thrawn is worth the investment as he is a top tier toon so I would switch.

As a note, no matter what your priorities, you should make it a number 1 to farm 6 tier 5 mods for each your arena team. Even if they don't match (for now). It makes a huge difference to the team.

But you definitely want a tank in there. If you can't use Sith Trooper is GK an option? He is tanky even at lower star levels if you can gear him and he isn't too bad a sink
kevsmart75
8 years ago
I think you would be better off running an Empire/Sith combo than a DN team, you are too far off from having a viable SiT and SA. Run EP lead, add in Thrawn, TFP, and some combination of Sid, Savage, Tarkin, and DN. I wouldn't run DN without a tank or two to protect him though, he'd be useless on defense without it.
djohns2000
8 years ago
Thanks for everyone's input so far, I'll address what I can.

I looked for a Haat guild a while back and most of them want 1.5 GP+, and I'm not even half of that. Figured I'd look again when I can pull my weight in a raid. So no GK here.

SiT is the tank I wanna use, and once I beat his cantina node (which I'll make another post about once I get closer, I've been told get to g10 but ima try with majority g9) and start farming him I think I'll have the gear and mods to make him great. For now though, he's just squishy.

With 5 dot mods- The biggest issue with me investing in mods right now is I don't have the spare cantina energy or the credits. Too many toons to star and level. This month alone I've worked on RG, Hera, Ezra, TFP just for events, and I also want Kylo, Old Ben Barris, Hoth Han, etc. That said, I am going to work on them a bit more because I think mods will make the difference between 7* R2 now or whenever he returns. And like I said, if I throw in Thrawn, I'll definitely give him a speed arrow mod if even I have to farm it. I've only been grabbing health mods so I don't have to level jawa, jedi and who ever else.

As an emp/sith combo- I want to switch from sith to emps, but that's more of a long term goal. I've thought about something along the lines of DN,EP,tarkin,storm,thrawn with (with not tarkin leading), but I've been hesitant to invest there. More along the lines of what you said would be EP, thrawn, DN, tarkin and tfp/sid.

Like what @MK61 said, my matches usually come down to how (on both teams) EP and DN's aoe's drop and who gets disabled. Cuz of my crap mods, I usually get the poor end of the speed stick. Which means my EP and DN get more stuns.

Unless someone puts up a convincing case otherwise, I'll drop Sid for Thrawn and hopefully Vader for Rex later. (with dropping Dooku for SiT stays a dream.) I'ma wait a bit until I can put a few levels on him (putting a level 66 on my team is asking to get targeted) and I'll have a few better mods by then. (focus is on emps with more stars for R2 event.)

I definitely need a tank and really want one, but no tank is in sight- I think waiting till I can pass cantina 8 missions is my best bet. Maybe using tarkin to suppress incoming damage would be the closest subsitute

But if anyone wants to hook me up with a Haat guild and/or a good Sith leadership as an ally, Im down.
DarthGugel
8 years ago
Who are your shard mates because I've seen team like yours floating around mi shard to
pumpkins_david_
8 years ago
"HK666;c-1325042" wrote:
With 5 dot mods- The biggest issue with me investing in mods right now is I don't have the spare cantina energy or the credits. Too many toons to star and level. This month alone I've worked on RG, Hera, Ezra, TFP just for events, and I also want Kylo, Old Ben Barris, Hoth Han, etc. That said, I am going to work on them a bit more because I think mods will make the difference between 7* R2 now or whenever he returns. And like I said, if I throw in Thrawn, I'll definitely give him a speed arrow mod if even I have to farm it. I've only been grabbing health mods so I don't have to level jawa, jedi and who ever else.

I don't have any real advice on your squad situation.

However, I understand where you are in the game from personal experience. There's so much out there, it's easy to get tugged in a lot of directions. The reality for most players is that you're going to have to be patient while these seeds you plant grow into something bearing fruit. Regarding cantina energy, outside of that situation where maybe you need 5* characters to simply unlock something, pick a character and focus on it to 7*. Dedicate your energy during the week days to that character. Weekends are for mod farming. Continue this until you at least have a solid set of mods for your arena squad.

I'd advise that you continue further until your ship crew have 5dot levelled up mods (even if they aren't great secondaries, ships don't care), and perhaps some extra mods for raid specific characters, but I'm assuming your roster isn't very deep right now and that's not much of a concern.

Having good mods on your arena squad at least gives you sets to swap around for events until your roster and mod library expands.
djohns2000
8 years ago
@DarthGugel dunno what you mean by shard mate. I would say who is the top five or something but I don't think I'm supposed to so... yeah

@DavidSPumpkins Yeah there's just so much stuff to chase after. It's overwhelming, especially since new stuff keeps coming, with some of it being out of reach But with the exception of Ezra and Hera earlier this month, I get them up to 7*. I've been prioritizing my 5 dot mods by importance (with a pinch of favoritism) and have like two and a half sets at max level. A larger problem than obtaining mods is leveling them. I usually just pick one mod and do one of the little upgrades a day, and then when that mod levels up I have all the other mods level up. I'll consider using the weekend for leveling and accumulating mods though.

I hadn't even considered mods for my pilots, but I should of. More on the list.
And moving mods around is what let me get Thrawn and if I 7* r2, it'll be because mods.

My roster is depressingly shallow. In this game for the long haul, so in a year that'll be different.
wearesyke
8 years ago
@HK666 Trust me when I say this. I run DN lead with great success. I take first a couple times a week when life permits (December 2016 shard). I made a post about it a couple weeks ago if you want to read that. ANYWAYS

You need sith trooper. And he doesn't need stars. I run mine at 4* and he is amazing. But you CANNOT run 1 dot mods on your squad arena team and then expect to climb higher. Get 5 dot health mods. It doesn't matter. Mods mean everything in arena.

You also need Thrawn. He is AMAZING!!! Like, since I unlocked thrawn, my life has changed. He makes everything so fun. His kit is really versatile and i love it.

You also need a cleanser. I personally use Chirrut but Rex would work too. You can't afford for DN or Dooku to get stunned or dazed. That means you lose.

This is what I would tell you to run:
DN lead
Dooku
Sith Trooper
Thrawn
Rex/Palpatine

You should check out my gg account. Take some tips from how I built mine. Sass and sith trooper under Nihilus is amazing.

https://swgoh.gg/u/wearesyke/

Hope this helped!
djohns2000
8 years ago
That one day I ran SiT, I got him to taunt almost reliably. (sometimes my team got to many stuns.) But then the enemy team shredded through him almost like they shred through Sid. As of right now, Dooku> SiT w/ retribution because of the life steal. That was with about half and half 5 dot and 1 dot mods. Responses from this post has convinced me to invest in 5 dot mods this very instant, so maybe I'll try again later.

I'm definitely gonna pump up my Rex and Thrawn after the R2 event, and I'll drop Sid and Vader for them. Whenever I judge SiT as ready I'll probably drop Dooku. I feel like Palps shocks and stuns are better than Dooku and his countering. While that life steal is awesome, if I'm suppressing the enemy properly I won't need him to counter, and he's easily nuked down. Asks a wiggs team.