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9 years ago
"SGMiller87;c-1205482" wrote:"zombiwan_kenobi;c-1205473" wrote:"SGMiller87;c-1205447" wrote:"zombiwan_kenobi;c-1205414" wrote:"Drepd;c-1205382" wrote:
they should add in the description that he dispels himself and gains taunt. Thats the only way he should be able to gain his taunt again if he is fractured or has any type of buff immunity on him.
I don't see why people are obsessed with fracture, he'll loose his taunt and fracture prevents him from getting it again. Nothing's wrong with Ben tooltip or whatever.
What is worrying me is more Old ben reworeked kit than its tooltip.
Turn 1. Mind trick and then a tank who is still not taunting. No potency, terrible results most certainly.
Turn 2. Finally he taunts, most certainly dispelled. Great a 1 turn taunt on a 4 turns CD... since no one is taunting you most certainly have lost one toon or two anyway.
Turn 3 to 6 worthless basic spam while getting a potency up buff which is needed by absolutely no skill during 3 turns.
So... Mind tricks happens still too late, will be resisted cause potency up on his basic is just ridiculous as opposed to Luke, Jyn, Bistan or Sidious own mechanics. Spamming a potency buff only buffing a single skill every 5s is a complete waste of design ressources.
He's barely tanking still too late and his survivability takes a serious hit since evasion up is now missing. A 4 turns CD taunt is also not much reliable.
Old ben isn't worse but his new kit seriously lacks of consistency.
He could have automatically taunted whenever someone gets a debuff or go below 100% health or whatever. He could have started any fight with a 1 turn potency up buff the same way Cassian works and keep evasion up or whatever....
I think you're making a weird assumption that he will use Mind tricks before his taunt. If he uses his taunt first, that completely changes your entire scenario.
If he taunts first it could be even worse cause most dispells will certainly be available and using mind trick when every single opponent has had enough time to use his entire kit is completely worthless. Ability block once you don't have any more skill to use isn't a better scenario to me.
Baze Malbus works fine cause he doesn't have to cast a worthless taunt skill and then can only rely upon his special.
Same thing with Shoretrooper and his entire kit relies upon one single skill.
Old ben is a mess and will fail at being both a tank and a debuffer. His kit is overcomplicated with poor results and AI won't help much there.
I think you're making very definitive statements for having not used him. Also, you're again presenting a strange scenario. If his taunt is immediately dispelled, he immediately regains taunt. I think it's way too early to say for sure but calling him "a mess" seems incredibly aggressive.
It sounds agressive cause you don't agree. To me it only sounds logical.
No i may be wrong that's why i took enough time to explain what doesn't seem to work in his kit. There were people who kept thinking Kanan was damn awesome at launch. We all know how it ended. :/
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