chaze = done

"Mzee;c-1169839" wrote:

"DarthApok;c-1169837" wrote:
Chaze has always been overrated imo. I've never understood all the complaints tbh. They are incredibly predictable and easy to deal with. Personally I love facing Chaze teams. Because Baze will lose his taunt real quick and will never get it back.

He taunts when Chirrut gets hit, taunts when someone dies, taunts off one of his abilities. Did I miss anything?

Try to debuff him, and it just gets cleansed with tenacity up from Rex or Chirrut, and get him close to dead and instant full health with hots.

Yes you did, everything.
He taunts when Chirrut goes below 100% HP not when he gets hit.
He taunts when someone on the enemy team dies, not on each team.
He doesn't have any taunting abilities. The only way he can taunt is if EP uses his special to give everyone Offence up as this reduces Chirruts Max Health or if Chirrut Equalizes everyone's health and there was someone below 100%. And this happens every 4 turns.

Thrawn + Zader?

"Mzee;c-1169839" wrote:

"DarthApok;c-1169837" wrote:
Chaze has always been overrated imo. I've never understood all the complaints tbh. They are incredibly predictable and easy to deal with. Personally I love facing Chaze teams. Because Baze will lose his taunt real quick and will never get it back.

He taunts when Chirrut gets hit, taunts when someone dies, taunts off one of his abilities. Did I miss anything?

Try to debuff him, and it just gets cleansed with tenacity up from Rex or Chirrut, and get him close to dead and instant full health with hots.

Ok.. He doesn't taunt when Chirrut gets hit.. Only when he falls below full health. He only taunts when someone on your side dies. And he doesn't have an ability that gives him taunt.. So.. Don't attack Chirrut.. If you don't attack Chirrut, Baze won't taunt. It's really that simple. Save them for last and kill Baze first. If no one on your team dies then Baze will not have taunt the entire match. As far as debuffs try B2. I run a Sith team though and have no problem against cleanse teams or Chaze.. Chaze is the most predictable overrated duo. Are they good? Yeah of course but they are just overrated and incredibly easy to deal with. GK+R2 on the other hand.. Yeah that's a tougher duo..

"vincentlondon;c-1169840" wrote:

"DarthApok;c-1169837" wrote:
Chaze has always been overrated imo. I've never understood all the complaints tbh. They are incredibly predictable and easy to deal with. Personally I love facing Chaze teams. Because Baze will lose his taunt real quick and will never get it back.

I love better to face a mob enforcer + jedi consular in arena than a chaze

Huge, if true.

Chaze doesn't hold well on defense because most players use chaze now. I feel 9/10 or 8/10 players in the top 10 of an arena shard use chaze, then it makes sense that players trying to break into the top 10 will have to beat chaze teams in order to get there. Hence, those chaze teams will drop out of the top 10.

It's been said on dozens threads over the past months that the issue with chaze is not that they're unbeatable arena gods, it's that they're arena gods who do too many things well with no drawback to their base stats

"Tuftedpaper85;c-1169995" wrote:
Chaze doesn't hold well on defense because most players use chaze now. I feel 9/10 or 8/10 players in the top 10 of an arena shard use chaze, then it makes sense that players trying to break into the top 10 will have to beat chaze teams in order to get there. Hence, those chaze teams will drop out of the top 10.

Other teams are holding where chaze teams are dropping. So no, the reason that chaze isn't holding on defence isn't because other players use chaze to beat chaze. Atleast, that's not what i'm referring to in my OP.

It's been said on dozens threads over the past months that the issue with chaze is not that they're unbeatable arena gods, it's that they're arena gods who do too many things well with no drawback to their base stats

What makes them arena gods if it isn't being unbeatable/hard to beat (read: holding better on defence)? And who cares about the many things they do without drawbacks if they're easely defeated (read: not holding better on defence)?
Seems to me that's just a made up argument to not look like a noob, but still complain about chaze.

Anyway, to me it doesn't really matter how good/OP/unballanced (people think) chaze is, i don't have, or have had, any issue with them at all. The point is that you can do better without them than with them currently. All teams are still going to get owned on defence though, some just less often than chaze teams currently.

I don't know. 40% of my top 10 are running Baze. About 40% of my top 20 are running him. Then it jumps to about 70% of my top 50 are running a Baze. My shard is Dec 2015. The top 10/top 20 is basically the same people.

"leef;d-120674" wrote:
there it is, i said it. Chaze doesn't hold best on defence and isn't part of the best team available for arena.
I'm not saying chaze isn't great anymore, not common anymore, not capable of competing for top spot anymore. Just that chaze doesn't hold best on defence and that chaze isn't part of the best team.

good day ;)

Who holds top defense then? If you say Thrawn I'll laugh because I can easily beat Thrawn teams with the Triple Cleanse team

Chaze= poor mans kenobi

"Loose_Lee;c-1170285" wrote:
Chaze= poor mans kenobi

Haha. So true. Although in some cases they can be a better option.