There was a thread lately necroed in general discussion but im very interested to continue the discussion abaut him here."Saritoss" wrote:Count Dooku - SithBase speed 167Primary speed set + 10% speed = 16.7Secondary speed stats = 90167+16+90= 273 speedMaul's zeta gives all sith on start of encounter 20% tm273 + 20% = 327?Can anyone be faster than this or is my math wrong?His double attack with some rng love could stun kenobi?Does his special stun go thru foresight? Can anyone comfirm that? ( i remember emperors did)"Scuba" wrote:20% tm gain at start does not equal 20% speed gain. Not sure why so many think that is the case. His speed is his speed.Maul lead lets him start with 20% tm so to get to the first move he only has to fill 80% tm. So for the first turn he will have an effective speed of 1.25 times his base speed which is really the only time you can calculate the difference273*1.25=341 effective speed first turn.Stuns are not supposed to go thru fs. Ep's did because GK fs was broke. It should now be fixed.Thank you for correcting my math. As i said is there anyone faster than dooku's effective 341 speed on first turn? Did anyone try dooku under maul zeta against GK and his crew?

Han Solo's first turn technically

Starting with 20% TM he should over come all characters minus Han of course. No one's going to reach 341 speed even under speed leaders. Dooku's double attack may even allow him to stun GK on first turn. 1st attack misses, 2nd attack hits.

"War;874593" wrote:Starting with 20% TM he should over come all characters minus Han of course. No one's going to reach 341 speed even under speed leaders. Dooku's double attack may even allow him to stun GK on first turn. 1st attack misses, 2nd attack hits. Or on yoda and alow emperor to stun?

"Aizfgas;875049" wrote:167 + 16.7 + 1x30 + 5x 25 = 167+171.7 = 338,7 speed . and now add 20% tm boost from maul zeta 338,7 x 1,2 thats about 400 .. So yeah he can be the fastest toon ingame.. And a 400 speed dooku would be op afHe won't be fastest toon in game. He starts the battle with 20% TM under Maul lead effectively giving him 341 speed on turn 1 only.According to the above math he has a speed of 273, which I'm sure TFP and Leia, Rey, Yoda, under respective speed leaders can beat. But he will go first anyway because of the 20% TM gain at start of battle.

His stun will not override foresight.I used Dooku (L) a lot in my Aug-Nov'16 shard...a fast ST Han will counter Dooku so hard it's not even funny...unless you have fast DT or fast Sun Fac to back him up. :)

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jarhead733
8 years ago
Han Solo's first turn technically
Zair_Zetross
8 years ago
Starting with 20% TM he should over come all characters minus Han of course. No one's going to reach 341 speed even under speed leaders. Dooku's double attack may even allow him to stun GK on first turn. 1st attack misses, 2nd attack hits.
Saritoss
8 years ago
"War;874593" wrote:
Starting with 20% TM he should over come all characters minus Han of course. No one's going to reach 341 speed even under speed leaders. Dooku's double attack may even allow him to stun GK on first turn. 1st attack misses, 2nd attack hits.

Or on yoda and alow emperor to stun?
Zair_Zetross
8 years ago
"Aizfgas;875049" wrote:
167 + 16.7 + 1x30 + 5x 25 = 167+171.7 = 338,7 speed . and now add 20% tm boost from maul zeta 338,7 x 1,2 thats about 400 .. So yeah he can be the fastest toon ingame.. And a 400 speed dooku would be op af

He won't be fastest toon in game. He starts the battle with 20% TM under Maul lead effectively giving him 341 speed on turn 1 only.

According to the above math he has a speed of 273, which I'm sure TFP and Leia, Rey, Yoda, under respective speed leaders can beat. But he will go first anyway because of the 20% TM gain at start of battle.
Silversmoke27
8 years ago
His stun will not override foresight.

I used Dooku (L) a lot in my Aug-Nov'16 shard...a fast ST Han will counter Dooku so hard it's not even funny...unless you have fast DT or fast Sun Fac to back him up. :)
FatherTime1001
8 years ago
TFP can pass that with the right mods. Give him a Tarkin lead if speed is all you need.
Saritoss
8 years ago
"Welterweight;875861" wrote:
His stun will not override foresight.

I used Dooku (L) a lot in my Aug-Nov'16 shard...a fast ST Han will counter Dooku so hard it's not even funny...unless you have fast DT or fast Sun Fac to back him up. :)

Im sure maul does the job with his daze.

Maul (L), Dooku, Emperor, Sid, Sunfac (modded for tenacity) would be a very dangerous setup.
Sunfac is the only targetable on start of the game.
Zair_Zetross
8 years ago
"Thor_Odinson1;875896" wrote:
TFP can pass that with the right mods. Give him a Tarkin lead if speed is all you need.

TFP with 341 speed? I don't think that exists. The question was whether anyone would move before Dooku, the answer is no, with the exception of Han who always shoots first. The discussion is whether him moving first will be a counter to the rising Jedi meta.
bitmoji
8 years ago
I am looking at reviving Dooku under maul lead. I don't see why to really worry so much about him going first, I don't think that is where his value lies.
Zair_Zetross
8 years ago
"bitmoji;878912" wrote:
I am looking at reviving Dooku under maul lead. I don't see why to really worry so much about him going first, I don't think that is where his value lies.

Going first is always a good thing in arena, for him it's even better because of his stun. Even against Qui-Gon lead he can use his basic and could potentially still stun whatever problem Jedi the enemy has. First misses on default, second hit has 35% chance to stun.