Countering Wiggs 3.0 without GK Chaze or Shoretrooper

Wiggs and Chaze are always a good team. R2 will make them again better. The reason why there is less Wiggs is because of zMaul.

But those rebels well moded can still beat a lot of teams and R2 will make them greater. More offense, more protection, and the ability to stealth allies and let Baze and his retribution to be the single toon not stealthed, giving moreover retribution with a critical hit since he'll also have advantage.

I am aware that devs felt that having even a couple of months with Wiggs not being the top dog was some kind of crime against nature. What I'm asking if it is something that they missed in their quest to make the rebels gods, especially for people that don't own the premium toons mentioned in title.

Run EP lead, with Vader, TFP, Boba and a tank/taunter. That's the lineup I used to beat the old Wiggs meta. Under an EP lead, if Vader sticks all his dots, he gets 100% TM and can using culling blade to kill a character. Then gets 100% tm to attack with basic and block an enemy from using a special. Not to mention TFP will get faster as he gets 10% tm for each debuffed enemy.

Deathtrooper + Shore + Veers > Wiggs.
Stun + Daze because of rebels. Critical Immunity on the entire team, more damages against rebels, etc...
Like Wiggs, they're not good against zMaul but at least, there's a small meta for our kind !

"mlb1399;c-1048285" wrote:
Run EP lead, with Vader, TFP, Boba and a tank/taunter. That's the lineup I used to beat the old Wiggs meta. Under an EP lead, if Vader sticks all his dots, he gets 100% TM and can using culling blade to kill a character. Then gets 100% tm to attack with basic and block an enemy from using a special. Not to mention TFP will get faster as he gets 10% tm for each debuffed enemy.

I used the same team, B2 was my tank. I don' t think it can work against Wiggs R2 Chaze.
The effectiveness of TFP is greatly reduced when facing Baze, Biggs turn is almost a guaranted kill, and R2 cleanses will severly impact the debuffs aplied by EP and Vader. That is without taking in acount rebels going stealth .

Wiggs won't work because of GK. Most people have him now and just his presence will neuter their damage since his crit immunity will kick in after the first hit of their combo.

"Guest;c-1048303" wrote:
Deathtrooper + Shore + Veers > Wiggs.
Stun + Daze because of rebels. Critical Immunity on the entire team, more damages against rebels, etc...
Like Wiggs, they're not good against zMaul but at least, there's a small meta for our kind !

Ignoring the fact that I specifcally said no Baze, Gk or Shore in the title, i noticed you only adressed 2 out of the 5 enemy toons. Who will deal with Chaze and R2 while Veers, Shore and DT supposedly deal with Wiggs?

"Zooey;c-1048312" wrote:
Wiggs won't work because of GK. Most people have him now and just his presence will neuter their damage since his crit immunity will kick in after the first hit of their combo.

Yeah, I am pretty sure that most people do not have GK, for example I don' t even have an ally or know anybody who owns him. Anyway he doesn't belongs in this thread, at least according to the title.

So nobody else has any ideas ? They really can't be beaten without a pretaunter or GW?

Ether be faster then their Biggs, and take him out first, then mebbe, or else you pretty much need a pretaunt