I feel like they are for the chewie events and others like them where you are going against crit teams.Thoughts?

I very commonly use them on tanks with passive autotaunts. They are extremely underrated.

No one is trying to out speed them, but you want to have enough speed to "keep pace" or allow you to use other slower mods that will allow you to get the stats you need.I didnt say you need speed focused arena mods, a little slower but properly modded will always be better. Avoiding crits in that event is not likely to be better than 30 speed to keep you team moving, and allowing you to sacrifice speed on other mods to get better potency and other needed stats.

Auto taunters and self healing tanks benefit. Z begs for one. Tanks under Qira or with Vandor (any scoundrel) get huge benefit out of them if they have a speed secondary.

"mlb1399;c-1791264" wrote:"DarthSummers;c-1790844" wrote:@mlb1399 those are some examples that work yes, but I was reading the OP's post as "should I put crit avoidance arrows on my bh to beat chewie," and the answer is probably no. There are certainly characters that benefit from a CA arrow, but they do not make up a large chunk of the game. This makes a CA arrow powerful, but still niche.I hear you. At the same time, those are the details that matter when you’re going up against TI, WW and MC in TW.I'm not sure how to interpret this comment as a response to someone claiming CA mods are a niche. Very few guilds face those guilds in TW. Generally speaking you'll be fine if you don't use CA mods at all, but using them on specific characters can be beneficial for sure.It's noteworthy that not modding for pure speed is way more common amongst top players/guilds. So from that perspective you can definately consider CA mods underrated by the masses. I think more credit is due for the changes to mods. Mods 2.0 has been a large improvement overall and not just the QoL aspect of it.

"leef;c-1793668" wrote:I think more credit is due for the changes to mods. Mods 2.0 has been a large improvement overall and not just the QoL aspect of it. I agree with this. Definitely underrated balancing act they pulled off and they are doing a good job of exploiting/reinforcing it with character designs over the last 9 or so months. Although maybe they underestimated how influential 4 6dot health primary mods would be on Jolee ;)

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NyKynoe
6 years ago
"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-1790388" wrote:
They can be useful if they have high speed secondaries, but without that you’re giving up too much speed (30 with no secondaries) to have anything other than very niche applications.

This.

Also for the chewie event, the speed will suit you better than the crit avoidance
nilsg960
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1790395" wrote:
"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-1790388" wrote:
They can be useful if they have high speed secondaries, but without that you’re giving up too much speed (30 with no secondaries) to have anything other than very niche applications.

This.

Also for the chewie event, the speed will suit you better than the crit avoidance

Just to emphasize what I said above, speed is massively overrated in that event. The characters are so fast (~300+ speed) most people including game changers that should know better spent weeks complaining about non existent TM loading on them. The only way you'll outspeed them is by having god mods most of us don't have and using a Jango leadership.

Given that they will all go first (and more often than you) you need to make sure your full team survives so protection or defense with a bossk lead or potency with a boba lead is a much better choice as primary stat focus in my opinion. Once you get Bossks taunt up he'll start taking multiple turns because of frenzy regardless of speed.

It's only my personal experience but I went from 40+ tries with speed focused arena modding to dropping all my characters speeds by between 50 and 70 points in place of protection and cleared it on second attempt with out dengar and only g9 greedo and g10 IG88 and cad bane and g12 bossk and boba.
Tbirds2001
6 years ago
Sith, trooper, Z, almost any tank is great with them.
blackbeardpepe
6 years ago
"Gryf;c-1790381" wrote:
I use one on Traya with +20 speed on Traya. It really helps against the constant GMY hits when facing Revan squads

That's really cool. The highest I ever got was 11 speed secondary. :'(
Legend91x
6 years ago
They are a niche choice for sure but definitely should not be underestimated. Their best use is for team comps where you can focus fire on one single char in your team (anti-Revan Traya, Droideka + R2, Nest + Qi'ra, etc.). I probably wouldn't use them in events though (even if the enemy team is crit heavy and stacked up with ridiculous speeds) as you still need the speed to keep up and losing 30 speed IS a big deal (also keep in mind that the CA arrow just gives a chance of avoiding crits, it's in no way a guaranteed immunity).
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
"Legend91;c-1790578" wrote:
They are a niche choice for sure but definitely should not be underestimated. Their best use is for team comps where you can focus fire on one single char in your team (anti-Revan Traya, Droideka + R2, Nest + Qi'ra, etc.). I probably wouldn't use them in events though (even if the enemy team is crit heavy and stacked up with ridiculous speeds) as you still need the speed to keep up and losing 30 speed IS a big deal (also keep in mind that the CA arrow just gives a chance of avoiding crits, it's in no way a guaranteed immunity).

My thoughts are that in the chewie both Lando and Han have landing crit-dependent abilities that significantly up their damage. Decrease the crit, decrease the damage. Might also help with R2's cleanse.
DarthTargaryen1
6 years ago
"DarthSummers;c-1790379" wrote:
In rare cases they seem to be useful, but the vast majority of teams in this game don't want to sit back and be patient. They are designed to get out and take control of the battle with turn meter manipulation or debuffs. To do this you need to take more turns to get your engine moving. So speed often wins in that situation

This is just wrong. KRu, Zal, Traya and many others need a CA arrow. It’s the most underrated primary in the game.
dwinkelm
6 years ago
I think they’re extremely underrated.

As stated earlier, tanks under Qi’ra do well with it, especially at 6e. L3 gets to like 95% crit avoidance and just doesn’t die.

I use them on Mission and Zalbaar under Carth, they also get to around 90%+ crit avoidance and they just simply live forever.

It’s important to note I use these teams primarily for TW defense, so I’m typically counting time-outs as successful wins. These teams also have solid health and protection regeneration, so emphasizing a truly traditional tank role and mitigating Damage seems to work well
Magic_Matthews9
6 years ago
CA mods, like Defence mods, are worthless to me.
Legend91x
6 years ago
"MagicMatthews99;c-1790991" wrote:
CA mods, like Defence mods, are worthless to me.

Just like your arena ranks?