While I found KRU kit nice overall (lead is great and unique also fits really nicely too) the other abilities seem much more... disapointing.Basic is Ok: tenacity down is nice and also the taunt mechanic, but it hits really really little.Halt should be undispellable: It has no point to have a great two turns stun with all the multiple cleanses there are now in game: Chirrut, rex, ackbar, FOO, kanan, hera, GK, thrawn, finn, talia, bb8... without that is just only a small annoyance.Focused rage hit ok to stun targets, but it recovers health. It should be proteccion just like masked kylo ren. Passive unique recovers health on hit and also halt recovers 10% health, it has no point to recover even more health with this ability.Also, for being a tank with low damage his survivability should be higher (he has low prot and health for being a tank, compared to baze, gk, shoretrooper, sith trooper, etc) and recovering prot with this special would help with that.What do you think?

"Darth_Amarth;c-1396495" wrote:The optimal FO team is KRU, Kylo, SFTP, FOST and FOO. Thanks to FOO, the team can stun everyone like crazy and Gains lots of TM and buffs (that provide Heals if you have KRU Zeta).In my opinion, we need Hux as a viable replacement for FOO that can reduce CDs and cleanse. Also some Offense up will be nice, given the fact that CRIT change/damage and speed are already there.This team can perfectly win against the meta from what I've seen.Damn, why would you post that just when i finally made up my mind to put a zeta on FTP? I was planning to go for kru(L) fost fotp foo thrawn but now i feel i need to consider more...

KRU has a very nice balanced kit imo. And that’s the difference between LS and DS. DS toons are balanced. LS toons are overpowered..

"DeepChu;c-1397207" wrote:That is why he needs something else or FO will never be part of arena meta.There's so much more to the game than arena. You have galactic war, events, raids, heroic raids, territory battles, territory wars, fleet arena... Arena is just one of several co-equal parts of the game. Not everything has to cater to just that one, narrow area.

Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters. Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win. I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively. Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed. Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will.

"lamatoe;c-1398102" wrote:Hah! Yeah I've had that twice in GW.. From a lowly geared Biggs... Kru hits him like a wet noodle and eventually dies from the repeated counters. Having run both the meta and FO teams and finishing first in arena every day I can say that FO are still some ways off being as viable as several of the other teams currently sitting in top arena. Beating FO is as easy as this.. Stun FOO with zhan. Cls ignore taunt, kill FOO. You win. I could auto most battles using cls meta..FO needs careful strategy ...which don't get me wrong, that's actually quite fun. But knowing that on defense they're a walk in the park kinda ducks. .and drop like a rock comparatively. Heres what i know. In the current era of swgoh if you don't have critical immunity your probably screwed. Either squishy toons need a protection/health boost or damage needs to dialed down. The later will never happen. ..actually neither will. Hmm, I’d say you’ve been fighting some crappy FO teams. If you stunned my FOO, my Thrawn would cleanse him next, FOO would give TM to FOST, and it’s business I’d usual. If I happen to be running pure FO, then OG Kylo would be next in line after FOO, and would feed everyone TM. Once FOST and KRU have their taunts up, would you really waste your dispel killing FOO instead of clearing a taunt or hitting FOTP? My point is it doesn’t matter who Zolo attacks first on my team, they are all capable of working as a team of 3 or 4. First Order is still a joke on defense, but if you have them geared and modded correctly, they are capable of beating any team on offense. If you don’t care about having a pure team, get Thrawn in the mix (he’s great with FOO, or replacing him) and they are a top tier team. "Tyrael1701;c-1397492" wrote:I found at G12 he just gets stunned and dies so fast. Against meta, thrawn always fractures him, then cls does his second ability and he dies. I also found Biggs alone can solo him and shut him down. I had multiple matches where these 2 went back and forth until kru was dead and Biggs full health. Kru had 100% counter with taunt, Biggs gains 100% tm after surviving a critical so shoots kru, who counters, Biggs survives a critical and gains 100% tm. Had it happen 4 sepadate times and Biggs just shut him down, so I started avoiding those teams if possible. His basic did no damage to biggs.I find this very strange, as my 4 Star, G11 KRU hasn’t had any trouble with this kind of thing. Sure, he’ll get fractured, but he still heals and definitely has enough hp to win a battle with Biggs. I love it when Biggs picks a fight with KRU or especially FOST, since he will just heal them and kill himself. Naturally, this is assuming you’ve taken out wedge and he’s not calling Zolo on the assists on something. If you link your swgoh.gg profile we may be able to help you figure out the problem, but first thing o would do is make sure he is modded for protection and health first, then offense, crit etc. He doesn’t need potency and in my opinion he doesn’t really need speed with all the TM from FOST and OG Kylo, plus you can always choose him with FOO and/or Thrawn if necessary. Frankly, I consider anything past the pretaunt and his stun to be a bonus, but I guarantee he will do more damage staying alive and countering hard, then going 30 speed faster.

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Campera0269
7 years ago
And look, I'm not saying he needs to be meta breaking or anything, an undispellable stun wouldn't change the meta as it is, but could make him a good choice in arena. After this movie, I really want Kylo to shine just a little bit more
boulywif
7 years ago
"Winterbio;c-1395082" wrote:
And look, I'm not saying he needs to be meta breaking or anything, an undispellable stun wouldn't change the meta as it is, but could make him a good choice in arena. After this movie, I really want Kylo to shine just a little bit more

Rey and Kylo are the 2 big heroes of the new movie, so I completely agree that his stun should be undispellable like Rey's Heal immunity. There's no reason why Rey should be more powerful than Kylo. Both kits are good imo since they both require their faction to be played at their full potential.
DeepChu
7 years ago
"BulYwif;c-1395506" wrote:
"Winterbio;c-1395082" wrote:
And look, I'm not saying he needs to be meta breaking or anything, an undispellable stun wouldn't change the meta as it is, but could make him a good choice in arena. After this movie, I really want Kylo to shine just a little bit more

Rey and Kylo are the 2 big heroes of the new movie, so I completely agree that his stun should be undispellable like Rey's Heal immunity. There's no reason why Rey should be more powerful than Kylo. Both kits are good imo since they both require their faction to be played at their full potential.

That is what I feel, He is overall good, but that's all. While new shiny rey + bb8 + r2 + 2 meta toons have enter directly in arena meta (not destroying it thankfully) KRU Team can't compete there. Have tried several combinations zzKRU + zFOST + Zylo with two of zFOTP / thrawn / r2 / cls / han / DN / FOO arena modded and simply can't compete with CLS squads or new rey teams.

I really would like FO to have a competitive arena team, but nowadays that's impossible. Maybe with the addition of a new toon (hux or bb9e to glue them together with a great passive or powerfull buffs / debuffs).

Let's see what happens
billcarson1966
7 years ago
I am not affiliated with Rumple, but this is my second time plugging his videos. He uses KRU as a second taunt in his sith team to great success in current meta.

Untested againat jedi rey and NS, but easy wins vs CLS/zarris/rex teams. So he has other uses than leader. Certainly worth the Farm/gear.
taytayh
7 years ago
Matt won't get plagued to death by NS and is much less likely to spread it with all those heals. I watch many a tank fall with full protection bars against my ladies so I think Matt's just not getting his due yet.

Rebels are on the way out. Looking forward to seeing what people say in a month.
anavelg_o48shga
7 years ago
I have 5 KRUM teams in my shard currently. Top 100. I think highest stays about 50 range. But I'm in a very tough shard too.
JohnnySteelAlph
7 years ago
Farming him in shipments. Strong team in many areas of the game.
Imrahil6
7 years ago
If you don't like him, that's fine. I continue to run him at the top of arena with a pure FO team.

One comment you made though is odd -- that his hp/prot is low. It's not really. He has 67k ehp (effective hp, for those who aren't familiar with that acronym).

Compare that to:
KRU: 67k
Baze: 68k
GK: 76k
Shore: 75k
ST: 72k
Sun Fac: 74k
Stormtrooper: 61k
FOST: 63k
Chopper: 61k
STH: 53k
Finn: 64k
K2SO: 71k

His number isn't unreasonably low. There are plenty of tanks below him.
DeepChu
7 years ago
"Minowara;c-1396010" wrote:
If you don't like him, that's fine. I continue to run him at the top of arena with a pure FO team.

One comment you made though is odd -- that his hp/prot is low. It's not really. He has 67k ehp (effective hp, for those who aren't familiar with that acronym).

Compare that to:
KRU: 67k
Baze: 68k
GK: 76k
Shore: 75k
ST: 72k
Sun Fac: 74k
Stormtrooper: 61k
FOST: 63k
Chopper: 61k
STH: 53k
Finn: 64k
K2SO: 71k

His number isn't unreasonably low. There are plenty of tanks below him.

I do like him, really, but in my shard there is no way I can do top with a pure FO squad.

Answering to your list I compared him with the TOP tanks:

Malbus has 20% more health for his passive + r2 is usually there with number crunch to increase that more.
GK kit is just awsome and highest pool and his super "everybody attacks at my order and destroy that guy".
Shoretrooper puts crit immunity + 10% max health for his passive.
and ST has +100% defense plus protection up.

All of the above have an effective health + prot pool higher or much higher than KRU.

Of course there are plenty tanks below him, that's not the point.

He is a good tank, and has improved FO team a lot, but it is not enough for top arena, that's all.
NicWester
7 years ago
"BulYwif;c-1395506" wrote:
"Winterbio;c-1395082" wrote:
And look, I'm not saying he needs to be meta breaking or anything, an undispellable stun wouldn't change the meta as it is, but could make him a good choice in arena. After this movie, I really want Kylo to shine just a little bit more

Rey and Kylo are the 2 big heroes of the new movie, so I completely agree that his stun should be undispellable like Rey's Heal immunity. There's no reason why Rey should be more powerful than Kylo. Both kits are good imo since they both require their faction to be played at their full potential.

Stums are orders of magnitude stronger and more important than heal immunity. You can’t compare the two one for one.