Hi,I'm a fairly new player (December 2016), and since I've been playing the game and reading these forums I've observed that many feel that there is not a lot of squad compilation diversity in arena and elsewhere in the game. It seems that a great many players to gravitate toward the META of the day which is great and probably wise. Additionally, it seems that speed mods are also winning the day. But could there be more possibilities for great team compilations that are not being utilized because they are not modded correctly to play to omega and zeta ability strengths? For example:Grandmaster Yoda led Jedi team. Could you place an emphasis on tenacity mods? Yoda's leadership zeta ability grants 30% TM for each buff resisted. It seems like this would be a TM machine if you could get team tenacity way up.Boba Fett led bounty hunter/scoundrel team. Could you place an emphasis on potency mods? Boba's leadership grants max health based upon 50% of team potency percentage. It seems like this team would be incredibly tanky, while giving out plenty of negative effects and lots of critical damage.Assaj Ventress led Nightsisters team. This could theoretically be the fastest team in the game with Ventress's leadership ability which grants 28 speed to Nightsister allies and cuts down opposing team TM. There are plenty more, health mods for Resistance and Phoenix teams to make them more resilient, or offense mods for Jedi and First Order teams to enhance basic attacks. Anyhow, I would like to believe that this game is superbly balanced and every team you choose has a perfect counter team...even CLS. Or maybe I got it all wrong and the META and speed mods are mathematically superior to all other teams and setups...I hope not.

Is this a joke post?Nightsisters are so horrible that they have been a running joke almost since the game's inception. People did put them in arena, and got decimated. And drastically better characters have come out since then. They have been made obsolete multiple times over. They are so terrible that they are getting redesigned by the devs literally this month.Literally everything in this post is wrong. Except when you said:"Whitefly425;d-138187" wrote:Or maybe I got it all wrong and the META and speed mods are mathematically superior to all other teams and setups...I hope not.

To address the original point, no the factions are not balanced. Not even close. There have been a couple times in the game’s history where multiple factions can compete at the top, but that’s been the exception not the rule.

Thanks BrtStlnd for the great answer. I was just hoping that CG actually did balance the factions and maybe with the right combination of mods the rest of the possible teams might be competitive. I was hoping that there maybe hidden potential in mod sets outside of speed that benefit certain factions more than others. It would be cool to see a Jawa or Ewok team at the top once in awhile. But it sounds it sounds like the math only supports five to six characters in the game right now.

lets use your yoda example for a second... put all tenacity mods on your team, the other team will go first and do lots of damage, with a decent chance to resist, OR you make yoda the fastest person on the team, he puts tenacity up for 100% resist, and you have a huge advantage because of speed mods... fastes CLS wins, fastest thrawn wins, it really is all about speed at the top or arena, team with +80 speed mods ranks at 100 in arena while the same exact team with +120 mods is number 1...

And just a heads up in case you were still farming Tenacity mods, they're pretty much a waste of time. You either get the Tenacity Up buff or don't bother. And one of the easiest way to get Tenacity Up before your opponent goes is having a FAST Yoda. P.s. Speed/TM is king in Squad Arena.

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JacenRoe
8 years ago
Is this a joke post?

Nightsisters are so horrible that they have been a running joke almost since the game's inception. People did put them in arena, and got decimated. And drastically better characters have come out since then. They have been made obsolete multiple times over. They are so terrible that they are getting redesigned by the devs literally this month.

Literally everything in this post is wrong. Except when you said:

"Whitefly425;d-138187" wrote:
Or maybe I got it all wrong and the META and speed mods are mathematically superior to all other teams and setups...I hope not.
BrtStlnd
8 years ago
To address the original point, no the factions are not balanced. Not even close.

There have been a couple times in the game’s history where multiple factions can compete at the top, but that’s been the exception not the rule.
MadMan4646
Newcomer
8 years ago
Thanks BrtStlnd for the great answer. I was just hoping that CG actually did balance the factions and maybe with the right combination of mods the rest of the possible teams might be competitive. I was hoping that there maybe hidden potential in mod sets outside of speed that benefit certain factions more than others. It would be cool to see a Jawa or Ewok team at the top once in awhile. But it sounds it sounds like the math only supports five to six characters in the game right now.
13Corey
8 years ago
lets use your yoda example for a second... put all tenacity mods on your team, the other team will go first and do lots of damage, with a decent chance to resist, OR you make yoda the fastest person on the team, he puts tenacity up for 100% resist, and you have a huge advantage because of speed mods... fastes CLS wins, fastest thrawn wins, it really is all about speed at the top or arena, team with +80 speed mods ranks at 100 in arena while the same exact team with +120 mods is number 1...
449710430e37db5
8 years ago
And just a heads up in case you were still farming Tenacity mods, they're pretty much a waste of time. You either get the Tenacity Up buff or don't bother.

And one of the easiest way to get Tenacity Up before your opponent goes is having a FAST Yoda.

P.s. Speed/TM is king in Squad Arena.
JaggedJ99
8 years ago
Speed, speed, speed. It's not the way mods should be, but it's the way it is. Embrace it.
Dretzle
8 years ago
There is a counter to CLS team comps, but those are just as boring. GK + Zarriss + Nihilus and try other strong toon (usually something like R2, Thrawn, and/or CLS). Or Rex, GK with some combination of thrawn, R2, CLS, Nihilus. I like to shake it up a bit and put in zeta'ed FOST.

Those are your three comps in the current system.
WrathofCaedus
8 years ago
"DarthSalsa;c-1305725" wrote:
"BrtStlnd;c-1305695" wrote:
To address the original point, no the factions are not balanced. Not even close.

There have been a couple times in the game’s history where multiple factions can compete at the top, but that’s been the exception not the rule.

I miss the rex meta

Rex was never meta, at best he was a lazy counter to an actual meta
BrtStlnd
8 years ago
It’s kind of like Taco Bell. You’ve got ground beef, cheese, beans, chicken, lettuce and tomatoes. There are a bunch of ways to mix those things up and call them different squads, but it’s just rearranging the same stuff.

Swgoh has as many “good” ingredients to make arena teams as Taco Bell.
imanujakku
8 years ago
Mods need a complete rework but considering modgate almost killed the entire player base I doubt it's going to happen. I think speed should only be on speed mods with no other stats so you are fast or you hit like a truck. Tenacity up, offense up etc should be based off the stats of the character plus mods not just 100 percent. The defense stats ...well I don't even know where to start with those lol.