I just wondered, is it international or a bug:Enfys Nest keeps regenerating 40% protection, no matter what you do? Even healing immunity debuff does not work at all (unlike fighting against Nihilus or any other character that regenerates health or protection - in German the skill tooltip reads exactly the same in comparison between Nihilus and Nest. Both -literally translated- receive a percentage of their max protection)Does this mean that Enfys Nest single handedly counters EVERY team that does not ignore protection, with no means of winning?I mean, I do understand that 40% prot is quite a lot, but a 61k crit from Rey (Scavenger) should still go past some of it o_O especially against a 3 star Nest...Designwise this is quite questionable, as it would mean -if intentional- " no one can beat this toon... unless you get our next ones which will be released soon™️"I think this would be an absolute new ground of character design in this game... and let’s face it: a wall we 100% cannot get past (compared the older toons that have been really strong but still beatable, Chaze anyone?)

Its working as intended, Healing immunity cannot prevent the protection up that Enfys gains (stacking 40%). Yes, this is too powerful of a skill for a toon that counters with expose, and has stacking CC and CD (rest of encounter). Enfys can straight up kill toons who cannot one shot her (40k-ish health at g12+ and mods) and there are plenty of teams that she can destroy alone (zBastilla teams).However, there are ways to defeat her (stun her and damage her after she takes a turn). Healining immunity does not prevent protection up but it prevents healing via health steal. Attack with Scav rey AFTER her protection up is down. Best way to manage Enfys is to chip on her protection while taking down other toons so that you can selectively attack and kill her. Saving her for last can be problematic.She's a strong toon but beatable. My only issue with Enfys is that AI targets her unnecessarily or doesn't handle her well which means teams on defense is awful. I wish defense was great again.

"Cossin;c-1647444" wrote:Why is everyone ignoring my specific points made? I‘m not a whiny kid... 1. Nest did have close to none blue prot left (not even half a bar) and full hp. Rey attacked her, no dodge, nothing. 61k floats up but Nest didn‘t receive ANY HP DAMAGE just purple bonus prot.2. So, your point is no matter the Team I MUST incorporate Nihilus (or any of the others... haha Traya :D our Guild cannot possibly do heroic Sithraid until maybe Christmas next year, although all of us play ever after the first year -with some dropouts- )to be able conveniently deal with her?And my major point:3. Why is it that „gain bonus protection equal to...“ is different to „ gains bonus protection equal to...“Someone did address it. The first hit in flurry of blows gave her bonus prot. The other two hits added more prot. The 61k crit couldn’t take her out after she had the bonus prot.

She isn't healing. She's gaining a bonus. It's like a buff that can't be dispelled.

She is beatable. Like many have said a high dps toon can one shot her after she takes her turn. Some candidates.YodaEzraSionVaderScav ReyRaid hanAsajj - probably need a zombie that has diedTrayaAnd last but certainly not least Nihilas - my personal choice because annihilate goes through the bonus protectionThere are probably more options but these are just a few from teams that are common.

"Ultra;c-1647403" wrote:However, there are ways to defeat her (stun her and damage her after she takes a turn). Healining immunity does not prevent protection up but it prevents healing via health steal. Attack with Scav rey AFTER her protection up is down. Best way to manage Enfys is to chip on her protection while taking down other toons so that you can selectively attack and kill her. Saving her for last can be problematic.Which is exactly what I did, while her having ZERO blue prot left and taking a turn. Scav Rey attacked with her second ability letting a 61k in yellow rise above Enfys Char and her simply having gotten a stack of purple prot.(And regarding healing immunity: it makes zero sense. Either a mechanic works one way or another. Why does it work against Nihilus but not against Nest? I just checked in both languages: both GAIN protection. One is cancelled by healing immunity, the other isn‘t. Arguing that way you could state 1+1=2 but 1+1=42 as well. It‘s simply not how ability descriptions in such games work or should work. Adding a „cannot be prevented“ would make it definite; although this cannot be prevented by itself is a stupid, lazy mechanic)

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NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
Its working as intended, Healing immunity cannot prevent the protection up that Enfys gains (stacking 40%). Yes, this is too powerful of a skill for a toon that counters with expose, and has stacking CC and CD (rest of encounter). Enfys can straight up kill toons who cannot one shot her (40k-ish health at g12+ and mods) and there are plenty of teams that she can destroy alone (zBastilla teams).

However, there are ways to defeat her (stun her and damage her after she takes a turn). Healining immunity does not prevent protection up but it prevents healing via health steal. Attack with Scav rey AFTER her protection up is down. Best way to manage Enfys is to chip on her protection while taking down other toons so that you can selectively attack and kill her. Saving her for last can be problematic.

She's a strong toon but beatable. My only issue with Enfys is that AI targets her unnecessarily or doesn't handle her well which means teams on defense is awful. I wish defense was great again.
BrtStlnd
7 years ago
"Cossin;c-1647444" wrote:
Why is everyone ignoring my specific points made?
I‘m not a whiny kid...

1. Nest did have close to none blue prot left (not even half a bar) and full hp. Rey attacked her, no dodge, nothing. 61k floats up but Nest didn‘t receive ANY HP DAMAGE just purple bonus prot.
2. So, your point is no matter the Team I MUST incorporate Nihilus (or any of the others... haha Traya :D our Guild cannot possibly do heroic Sithraid until maybe Christmas next year, although all of us play ever after the first year -with some dropouts- )to be able conveniently deal with her?

And my major point:

3. Why is it that „gain bonus protection equal to...“ is different to „ gains bonus protection equal to...“

Someone did address it. The first hit in flurry of blows gave her bonus prot. The other two hits added more prot. The 61k crit couldn’t take her out after she had the bonus prot.
JacenRoe
7 years ago
She isn't healing. She's gaining a bonus. It's like a buff that can't be dispelled.
DarkHelmet1138
7 years ago
She is beatable. Like many have said a high dps toon can one shot her after she takes her turn. Some candidates.

Yoda
Ezra
Sion
Vader
Scav Rey
Raid han
Asajj - probably need a zombie that has died
Traya

And last but certainly not least

Nihilas - my personal choice because annihilate goes through the bonus protection

There are probably more options but these are just a few from teams that are common.
coSS1n
7 years ago
"Ultra;c-1647403" wrote:

However, there are ways to defeat her (stun her and damage her after she takes a turn). Healining immunity does not prevent protection up but it prevents healing via health steal. Attack with Scav rey AFTER her protection up is down. Best way to manage Enfys is to chip on her protection while taking down other toons so that you can selectively attack and kill her. Saving her for last can be problematic.

Which is exactly what I did, while her having ZERO blue prot left and taking a turn. Scav Rey attacked with her second ability letting a 61k in yellow rise above Enfys Char and her simply having gotten a stack of purple prot.

(And regarding healing immunity: it makes zero sense. Either a mechanic works one way or another. Why does it work against Nihilus but not against Nest? I just checked in both languages: both GAIN protection. One is cancelled by healing immunity, the other isn‘t.
Arguing that way you could state 1+1=2 but 1+1=42 as well. It‘s simply not how ability descriptions in such games work or should work. Adding a „cannot be prevented“ would make it definite; although this cannot be prevented by itself is a stupid, lazy mechanic)
trystanspyder
7 years ago
I'm surprised OP is bringing this up now - had to check the original post date.
A LOT of people were asking the same questions when Enfys first came out.

She's a very hard counter to certain teams (stun/fracture/tmr), much like Bastilla is a hard counter to certain teams.

She's far from invincible though, as long as you know the strategy. Or nihilus.
DarkHelmet1138
7 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1647421" wrote:
I'm surprised OP is bringing this up now - had to check the original post date.
A LOT of people were asking the same questions when Enfys first came out.

She's a very hard counter to certain teams (stun/fracture/tmr), much like Bastilla is a hard counter to certain teams.

She's far from invincible though, as long as you know the strategy. Or nihilus.

I like nihilas. He takes care of her rather easily along with other toons that take awhile to kill. Like enemy sions or gks with massive protection mods.

And if run in an ep or traya team, you also have sion and vader/traya that can also one shot her so the chances of not being able to kill nest in time is low.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/169926/kit-reveal-enfys-nest/p1

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coSS1n
7 years ago
Why is everyone ignoring my specific points made?
I‘m not a whiny kid...

1. Nest did have close to none blue prot left (not even half a bar) and full hp. Rey attacked her, no dodge, nothing. 61k floats up but Nest didn‘t receive ANY HP DAMAGE just purple bonus prot.
2. So, your point is no matter the Team I MUST incorporate Nihilus (or any of the others... haha Traya :D our Guild cannot possibly do heroic Sithraid until maybe Christmas next year, although all of us play ever after the first year -with some dropouts- )to be able conveniently deal with her?

And my major point:

3. Why is it that „gain bonus protection equal to...“ is different to „ gains bonus protection equal to...“
trystanspyder
7 years ago
Nobody's ignoring you or calling you a whiny kid - just pointing out that your questions have been asked (and answered) many times since the toon was released.