Ewoks & Rebel Again Before Driods Really?

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166432" wrote:


FACT the overwhelming majority of people did not want an ewok pass. FACT in no way was I contradicting myself.

FACT The overwhelming majority of players do not participate in this forum.

"Sothe;c-1166460" wrote:

Droids are fine. They could use a mod challenge at some point though.

lol, not even close.

"Sothe;c-1166460" wrote:
Droid users got K2-SO a lot more recently Than Ewoks got anything, and K2 is a heckin' useful toon for droid squads at that. (Also does well under Wedge lead for GW and P2/4 AAT)

Droids are fine. They could use a mod challenge at some point though.

What would a mod challenge do?

"xanderxman;c-1166457" wrote:
FACT The overwhelming majority of players do not participate in this forum.

That's the point of a survey.

"Sothe;c-1166475" wrote:

"Mzee;c-1166469" wrote:

"Sothe;c-1166460" wrote:

Droids are fine. They could use a mod challenge at some point though.

lol, not even close.

Droids do what they're intended to do very well. They crit often, and they crit big. The anti-crit abilities released finally outdated them after nearly a year of being arena viable, sure, but they're in a better place over many factions.

They don't crit big anymore. There are support characters that do a LOT more

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166472" wrote:


That's the point of a survey.

The point of a survey is to get a large enough sample size to make it relevant. If you only survey 1,000 people out of millions it is in no way an "overwhelming" majority

"Sothe;c-1166460" wrote:
Droid users got K2-SO a lot more recently Than Ewoks got anything, and K2 is a heckin' useful toon for droid squads at that. (Also does well under Wedge lead for GW and P2/4 AAT)

Droids are fine. They could use a mod challenge at some point though.

They also got R2 who's great and to a lesser extent Chopper (who is barley used in a Phoenix squad if at all) but just stating the recent droid releases. Heck even B2 was added a year ago and he's a legit droid too.

"xanderxman;c-1166477" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166472" wrote:


That's the point of a survey.

The point of a survey is to get a large enough sample size to make it relevant. If you only survey 1,000 people out of millions it is in no way an "overwhelming" majority

There isn't millions of people that STILL play this game.

"Sothe;c-1166475" wrote:

"Mzee;c-1166469" wrote:

"Sothe;c-1166460" wrote:

Droids are fine. They could use a mod challenge at some point though.

lol, not even close.

Droids do what they're intended to do very well. They crit often, and they crit big. The anti-crit abilities released finally outdated them after nearly a year of being arena viable, sure, but they're in a better place over many factions.

Droids do not do anything well anymore. They pale in comparison to other teams in HAAT, and they fail in arena with all the anti-crit teams, squishiness, and no survivability.

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166432" wrote:

"Krayden_Phogg;c-1166412" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166389" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166365" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166359" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166336" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166324" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166311" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166304" wrote:

"Pyrefly;c-1166291" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166277" wrote:

"Pyrefly;c-1166268" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166248" wrote:

"Khayman;c-1166221" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166208" wrote:

"nevertellmetheodds;c-1166190" wrote:
Droids had a long, long run of being viable. The way it's looking now, Ewoks will be a C-team at best (like troopers), so no need for rage.

The rage isn't about them being the next meta, its the fact that a unimportant and unwanted faction got the latest faction pass. Nobody asked for an ewok pass...except like 2 people. EVERYONE ELSE wanted separatist (1) and Jedi (2)

Stop with the broad strokes. I despise the Separatists so no I did not ask for a pass on them. I like ewoks, they are fun to play. Jedi are my favorite but them getting passed over is fine. Just because your favorites got ignored does not mean everyone is unhappy.

You don't realize that I'm not generalizing. There are many polls that show a LARGE majority want separatists and jedi and not many wanted ewoks (some voted for them as jokes). https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-TFKZKKNP/

"nevertellmetheodds;c-1166225" wrote:
Haha! No one wanted seprawotsits.

You sure about that? Look at the survey results and see for youself

I don't think you understand the concept of "majority". I'm sure a majority of people don't really care at all about a pass for any faction. Simply because more people (according to an online poll subject to self-selection bias) care about a faction pass for one faction over another does not mean that they represent the majority of all players.
You're also confusing "majority" with "plurality".

ok then, a plurality of people voted for Separatists then. And there is no bias in the poll because it lists every faction and every character. You are able to pick 3 factions and 5 heroes on the poll

No; a plurality of the people who bothered to vote, voted for Separatists. There was no option for "I don't care". And ultimately, the self-selection bias means that only people who really cared about a faction pass were going to bother to be a part of the polling sample, anyway.

Its still representative of what the larger whole wants...and most people didn't want ewoks

I'm curious how you come to this conclusion - what proof do you have that the vocal minority is speaking for the silent majority?

Because its a poll....its what they do. It's not like everyone that voted is a male and everyone who didn't vote is female; its a sample size that represents what the results would look like if everyone voted.

But you have no guarantee that the claim "represents what the results would look like if everyone voted" is valid. What proof do you have that selection bias didn't occur and that the minute sample size, out of tens of millions of downloads, is actually indicative of the entire playerbase? Just because you post a survey or poll doesn't guarantee it's representative of the whole, especially when the survey is such a tiny percent of the total population (1017 / 10,000,000 = 0.01017%, and 10 million is just the highest I can go since the App Store doesn't show true download count).

I don't have a guarantee but I know for a fact that ewoks would not even be close to one of the most wanted factions for a rework.

How can you know for a fact without proof? You can make an assumption, an informed hypothesis based on assumptions from other polls, surveys, anecdotal evidence, etc., but you can't know it's.a fact if you can't prove it's a fact. You assume it's a fact, but you don't know for certain that it is.

omg...just stop with that. There's no way more people wanted ewoks than seps, bh or jedi. There's no proof or whatever but its impossible that more people wanted ewoks over those stated above.

Please stop. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a migraine from constantly contradicting yourself.

Do you not realize that an entire GENERATION has grown up with Ewoks since they were kids and those same people probably love them (not all) and even like or want to use them in game. You don't use any facts in your arguments, it's all personal opinion and when you're refuted or asked to provide proof, you can't. You sound just like every person who said it was "impossible" that Thrawn was the fan favorite because he was in the EU and on a "kids" show.

Here's some facts for your face. FACT the Ewok pass is here and there are more Ewoks coming whether you like it or not. FACT Commander Luke Skywalker is coming. FACT Hoth Han, Hoth Leia and more are coming. FACT while you think your opinion is the majority, it's in FACT the minority.

FACT the overwhelming majority of people did not want an ewok pass. FACT in no way was I contradicting myself.

FACT that's your opinion with ZERO facts to back up your claim.

"Krayden_Phogg;c-1166481" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166432" wrote:

"Krayden_Phogg;c-1166412" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166389" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166365" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166359" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166336" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166324" wrote:

"Mageduckey;c-1166311" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166304" wrote:

"Pyrefly;c-1166291" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166277" wrote:

"Pyrefly;c-1166268" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166248" wrote:

"Khayman;c-1166221" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1166208" wrote:

"nevertellmetheodds;c-1166190" wrote:
Droids had a long, long run of being viable. The way it's looking now, Ewoks will be a C-team at best (like troopers), so no need for rage.

The rage isn't about them being the next meta, its the fact that a unimportant and unwanted faction got the latest faction pass. Nobody asked for an ewok pass...except like 2 people. EVERYONE ELSE wanted separatist (1) and Jedi (2)

Stop with the broad strokes. I despise the Separatists so no I did not ask for a pass on them. I like ewoks, they are fun to play. Jedi are my favorite but them getting passed over is fine. Just because your favorites got ignored does not mean everyone is unhappy.

You don't realize that I'm not generalizing. There are many polls that show a LARGE majority want separatists and jedi and not many wanted ewoks (some voted for them as jokes). https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-TFKZKKNP/

"nevertellmetheodds;c-1166225" wrote:
Haha! No one wanted seprawotsits.

You sure about that? Look at the survey results and see for youself

I don't think you understand the concept of "majority". I'm sure a majority of people don't really care at all about a pass for any faction. Simply because more people (according to an online poll subject to self-selection bias) care about a faction pass for one faction over another does not mean that they represent the majority of all players.
You're also confusing "majority" with "plurality".

ok then, a plurality of people voted for Separatists then. And there is no bias in the poll because it lists every faction and every character. You are able to pick 3 factions and 5 heroes on the poll

No; a plurality of the people who bothered to vote, voted for Separatists. There was no option for "I don't care". And ultimately, the self-selection bias means that only people who really cared about a faction pass were going to bother to be a part of the polling sample, anyway.

Its still representative of what the larger whole wants...and most people didn't want ewoks

I'm curious how you come to this conclusion - what proof do you have that the vocal minority is speaking for the silent majority?

Because its a poll....its what they do. It's not like everyone that voted is a male and everyone who didn't vote is female; its a sample size that represents what the results would look like if everyone voted.

But you have no guarantee that the claim "represents what the results would look like if everyone voted" is valid. What proof do you have that selection bias didn't occur and that the minute sample size, out of tens of millions of downloads, is actually indicative of the entire playerbase? Just because you post a survey or poll doesn't guarantee it's representative of the whole, especially when the survey is such a tiny percent of the total population (1017 / 10,000,000 = 0.01017%, and 10 million is just the highest I can go since the App Store doesn't show true download count).

I don't have a guarantee but I know for a fact that ewoks would not even be close to one of the most wanted factions for a rework.

How can you know for a fact without proof? You can make an assumption, an informed hypothesis based on assumptions from other polls, surveys, anecdotal evidence, etc., but you can't know it's.a fact if you can't prove it's a fact. You assume it's a fact, but you don't know for certain that it is.

omg...just stop with that. There's no way more people wanted ewoks than seps, bh or jedi. There's no proof or whatever but its impossible that more people wanted ewoks over those stated above.

Please stop. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a migraine from constantly contradicting yourself.

Do you not realize that an entire GENERATION has grown up with Ewoks since they were kids and those same people probably love them (not all) and even like or want to use them in game. You don't use any facts in your arguments, it's all personal opinion and when you're refuted or asked to provide proof, you can't. You sound just like every person who said it was "impossible" that Thrawn was the fan favorite because he was in the EU and on a "kids" show.

Here's some facts for your face. FACT the Ewok pass is here and there are more Ewoks coming whether you like it or not. FACT Commander Luke Skywalker is coming. FACT Hoth Han, Hoth Leia and more are coming. FACT while you think your opinion is the majority, it's in FACT the minority.

FACT the overwhelming majority of people did not want an ewok pass. FACT in no way was I contradicting myself.

FACT that's your opinion with ZERO facts to back up your claim.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-TFKZKKNP/