8 years ago

Ewoks vs Meta

Warning, this is lengthy but detailed.
I posted yesterday about how I thought, regardless of what many people were predicting, an Ewok team can compete with the current meta teams. That doesn't mean much without examples so I put together some screenshots of a sample of battles against popular meta teams right now in the top 20. Because these are screenshots and not videos, I didn't examine stats or mods because frankly, I'm not going first against any of these teams so speed isn't a huge factor in these particular battles. This is on a Dec 2015 server and my team consists of:
Chirpa (zeta) G11
Elder G11
Scout G10
Wicket (zeta) 5* G9
Logray (zeta) 3* G10

Scout is the fastest at only 215. I haven't fully modded them yet.

First battle is against the most common jedi team, making up 12% of Rank 1 teams:
http://i.imgur.com/USkiqMe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kSBPB4b.jpg

After first barrage they focused elder who was barely able to survive and removed TM from Wicket. At this point I used Scout's assist to call Logray on Kenobi, who then gave everyone offense up, tm, foresight and advantage.
http://i.imgur.com/8P9B4Qs.jpg
Tribal Unity from Chirpa and Kenobi dies. Move on to Anakin and now the Ewoks are rolling
http://i.imgur.com/OI9A8RH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Yzs1CCJ.png

If you can survive the first onslaught it's an easy win.

Next up is a Maul team that makes up 7% of all rank 1 teams:
http://i.imgur.com/ocTygdF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DZ1mqUQ.png
They go first and seem to spread damage equally with AOE's. I'd like to take out Maul first but I really have to just follow the stealth.
http://i.imgur.com/YoxdfhW.png
Maul dies, moving on to Palp. Train is rolling.
http://i.imgur.com/TMzcVfE.png
Palp dead, next is SA. I don't have pictures of the end of this battle since I need every second to deal with Savage. He's the only reason these teams are difficult, and you really have to time it so Chirpa uses Tribal Unity with offense up and when Savage is dazed and stealthed so he can't gain TM or cleanse.

Next team isn't on the meta report since Tarkin is lead, but it's a common team for people who need the speed.
http://i.imgur.com/rbWvBz4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rMCZwcL.png
They open with AOE's and Chirpa gets fractured. No one else has any TM restrictions though so I should be able to build quickly
http://i.imgur.com/Km5kvzX.png
Focus TFP and then move on to Thrawn. 5 v 3 now
http://i.imgur.com/asdCpGw.png
Nihilus goes next and it's over

Next team makes up 7%
http://i.imgur.com/w0s7oYn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RDL8sqg.png
Things happened pretty quickly in this one and I was late on the pic, but Kenobi was first and then Rex.
http://i.imgur.com/MJ2BZLD.png
R2 next.
http://i.imgur.com/SxvNAfG.png
Here's where Daze comes in handy and then it's important to control Kylo. Don't use Logray's offense up until Kylo is close to going so you can make sure everyone has foresight and avoids outrage. Otherwise it's starting over.
http://i.imgur.com/HS7e0ex.png
Victory with 4 left

Last team is the most popular team, at 48% of all rank 1 teams:
http://i.imgur.com/RxR9jl9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X9MgQMb.png
Luckily Wicket was faster than Nihilus and I called Chirpa to assist on Baze to bump him to 100%, Chirpa wins the tiebreak over Nihilus. Definitely could have gone worse for me.
http://i.imgur.com/vdE87bR.png
Tribal Unity almost kills Kenobi.
http://i.imgur.com/MpKyinR.png
Rex dies soon.
http://i.imgur.com/zfPkM9e.png
They focus on Wicket and he dies.
http://i.imgur.com/HUrlYA2.png
Revived
http://i.imgur.com/sgrHSfq.png
Chirrut murders poor Logray. Nihilus is probably 1 turn from Annihilate
http://i.imgur.com/C1IsWa0.png
Kill Nihilus before Annihilate, Wicket dies.
http://i.imgur.com/cUCnPN2.png
Revived with Elders first special (although it probably wasn't necessary) and they win!

This is not a sample of ALL the teams one would need to beat in the top 10, but it's just to demonstrate that this team is absolutely capable of competing with the big dogs. Sure, it's probably awful on defense but most teams are. It's also plenty of fun with the sound on. This is also a severely undergeared and understarred team at the moment.

jmille2010
8 years ago
Fulcrum on an ewok buff team looks like a fun option.
Josh_WoLand
New Spectator
8 years ago
You shown, how you kill some kind of trash - all this setups I kill by Jedi in 5:0. Show us a real meta, like Rex(l), zBarris, JK, Nihilus, Thrawn. Or something like Rebels+zBarris. or at least Big(l)+Sith. That's unbeatable tems, not shown.
MetroidSR388
8 years ago
Nice! Their survivability is impressive indeed.
Slothnado19
8 years ago
"warmonkey;c-1196065" wrote:
How well do they hold on defense?

Thanks for testing them!

I only have a couple days sample size but I only fell to 10 overnight. I also noticed someone who was battling me not swap places, so I can say they have successfully won at least 1 battle on defense.
Slothnado19
8 years ago
"Woland_Nick;c-1196124" wrote:
You shown, how you kill some kind of trash - all this setups I kill by Jedi in 5:0. Show us a real meta, like Rex(l), zBarris, JK, Nihilus, Thrawn. Or something like Rebels+zBarris. or at least Big(l)+Sith. That's unbeatable tems, not shown.

I'm having a tough time understanding your post but if you're asking for more examples unfortunately I can only fight what's available on my server. I can't just make up teams to play. Also who is JK or Big?
rawman81
8 years ago
How are the furballs doing on defense? ^
JohnnySteelAlph
8 years ago
"Woland_Nick;c-1196124" wrote:
You shown, how you kill some kind of trash - all this setups I kill by Jedi in 5:0. Show us a real meta, like Rex(l), zBarris, JK, Nihilus, Thrawn. Or something like Rebels+zBarris. or at least Big(l)+Sith. That's unbeatable tems, not shown.

I think the videos are to show generally how they perform and from what we see it's a team that can win on offense - I don't see anyone proclaiming they are the best team and will break meta now. They got some nice wins against some good teams that people commonly see in arena. You take whatever you want from it.
superEwokCat
8 years ago
"scuba;c-1195461" wrote:
"Boxmint;c-1195449" wrote:
@scuba What team are you running?

Chirpa, Paploo, Logray, Teebo, Wicket.
https://youtu.be/qHA7umeg8Ig
https://youtu.be/R35ZrR8TFc8

No ewok elder? I think he is the key of the team.
DarthJulienus
8 years ago
Were the DN you faced with an omega on their annihilate? Shouldn't Elder not be able to revive DN's victims?
scuba75
Rising Traveler
8 years ago
"sloths19;c-1195605" wrote:
Wow I had no idea paploo had the speed boost based off modded speed. That changes everything. I still think Elder is critical but I do have teebo maxed so I could try switching based on opponents.

Yes it does. Allows to set some what of a turn order. If he goes first use his second special first and that ewok will get 30% tm
"Supercat;c-1196172" wrote:
"scuba;c-1195461" wrote:
"Boxmint;c-1195449" wrote:
@scuba What team are you running?

Chirpa, Paploo, Logray, Teebo, Wicket.
https://youtu.be/qHA7umeg8Ig
https://youtu.be/R35ZrR8TFc8

No ewok elder? I think he is the key of the team.

I keep hearing that but who do you drop for him? I was expecting to use Elder over teebo but teebo brings so much with his 100% Turn meter push, tmr and dispel.