FO Stormtrooper Return Fire Zeta Scenario

The chance to trigger an indefinite loop is lower than hitting a jackpot. Good luck with it and I don't even think Phasma's leader works and applies on counter attacks.

Can't.

I believe 4? Is the maximum amount of bounces till it stops.

He can assist and call an assist once which would be 3.

Using an assist attack, and the second attack calling an assist which calls FOST, who then calls another assist.

Counter does count, he can call an assist from it

"Bennehftw;c-1162497" wrote:
Can't.

I believe 4? Is the maximum amount of bounces till it stops.

He can assist and call an assist once which would be 3.

Using an assist attack, and the second attack calling an assist which calls FOST, who then calls another assist.

Counter does count, he can call an assist from it

Correct, although I suppose with the Wiggs attack you could do 5. To clarify, under Phasma's lead, Biggs could do the triple attack and also call FOST to assist. At the point FOST can call another assist, but that's it.

FOST can also call assist on counters, and if Gar Saxon were present you could triple assist counter, but only FOST can call on counters, Phasma's lead excludes them.

The last possibility is FOST calling two assists, one from Phasma lead and one from his zeta, but these cannot proc further assists.

"tharduskafka;c-1162806" wrote:

"Bennehftw;c-1162497" wrote:
Can't.

I believe 4? Is the maximum amount of bounces till it stops.

He can assist and call an assist once which would be 3.

Using an assist attack, and the second attack calling an assist which calls FOST, who then calls another assist.

Counter does count, he can call an assist from it

Correct, although I suppose with the Wiggs attack you could do 5. To clarify, under Phasma's lead, Biggs could do the triple attack and also call FOST to assist. At the point FOST can call another assist, but that's it.

FOST can also call assist on counters, and if Gar Saxon were present you could triple assist counter, but only FOST can call on counters, Phasma's lead excludes them.

The last possibility is FOST calling two assists, one from Phasma lead and one from his zeta, but these cannot proc further assists.

Also with Phasma in best RNG they can do more: Phasma + Wiggs + Sabine + Ezra. Biggs calls Wedge and Sabine, Ezra assists Biggs. Can be 7 hits :smile:

"BulYwif;c-1162837" wrote:

"tharduskafka;c-1162806" wrote:

"Bennehftw;c-1162497" wrote:
Can't.

I believe 4? Is the maximum amount of bounces till it stops.

He can assist and call an assist once which would be 3.

Using an assist attack, and the second attack calling an assist which calls FOST, who then calls another assist.

Counter does count, he can call an assist from it

Correct, although I suppose with the Wiggs attack you could do 5. To clarify, under Phasma's lead, Biggs could do the triple attack and also call FOST to assist. At the point FOST can call another assist, but that's it.

FOST can also call assist on counters, and if Gar Saxon were present you could triple assist counter, but only FOST can call on counters, Phasma's lead excludes them.

The last possibility is FOST calling two assists, one from Phasma lead and one from his zeta, but these cannot proc further assists.

Also with Phasma in best RNG they can do more: Phasma + Wiggs + Sabine + Ezra. Biggs calls Wedge and Sabine, Ezra assists Biggs. Can be 7 hits :smile:

Sure, Leia or Sabine could add more hits, if you want include that you could have the Wiggs attack call Leah, and Phasma's lead call Sabine for potentially 8 hits, or Wiggs attack with Leia, which calls FOST who calls Sabine for 9...

I'm not sure I understand what Ezra brings to the table, he can call someone, but assists are only basic attacks.

Okay, not sure about this one, but if we're just theory crafting:

In PVE if you used a Clone squad with Cody, Fives and Echo, along with Leia and FOST, and borrowed Phasma as second leader,you could theoretically have Cody do the 212th, with Clones doing 3, they call Leia to make 6, this procs FOST for 7, and he calls Leia again (this can happen), for 10.

If the enemy has speed down, I think Fives would do his double attack, I'm not positive this works with 212th but that would be 11. If Echo is able to assist, that would be 12, I'm guessing that the Fives basic wouldn't proc as part of the 212th, but that would be insane to see.

"tharduskafka;c-1162856" wrote:
Okay, not sure about this one, but if we're just theory crafting:

In PVE if you used a Clone squad with Cody, Fives and Echo, along with Leia and FOST, and borrowed Phasma as second leader,you could theoretically have Cody do the 212th, with Clones doing 3, they call Leia to make 6, this procs FOST for 7, and he calls Leia again (this can happen), for 10.

If the enemy has speed down, I think Fives would do his double attack, I'm not positive this works with 212th but that would be 11. If Echo is able to assist, that would be 12, I'm guessing that the Fives basic wouldn't proc as part of the 212th, but that would be insane to see.

Fives' basic does proceed as a part of 212th attack. So theoretically, it is possible to have 12 attacks at once.

lol I see I sparked a lively discussion. I don't know if my thought process was wrong or too simple, but here's what I was thinking.

Full first order team, Phasma lead (most importantly phasma lead, zeta FOST, third ally)

Phasma skill : whenever an ally attacks there's a 60% chance for another ally to assist (first order)
Fost zeta: whenever FOST uses an ability (does that include his basic attack?), 50% chance for an ally to assist.

Say Kylo attacks first - phasma's leader procs and calls FOST to assist. Fost's basic procs his zeta and calls kylo to assist, which procs phasma's leader to call fost to assist, procs his zeta... repeat, repeat, repeat.

Is this incorrect?

Yes, unfortunately that is incorrect. Phasma's lead can only proc once each turn. At that point if it triggers FOST, he can call an assist, but that can't trigger another assist from Phasma that turn.

FOST's zeta can only proc once in each chain of attacks, but if he was called by an ability assist (as opposed to a lead or unique assist), he could attack twice.

For example, QGJ uses his assist attack and it calls FOST. He attacks, and this triggers and assist from his zeta. Phasma's lead could also call him to assist, leading him to attack twice, and each team he attacks he can potentially call an assist.

I've been trying different comps in GW to test this, using Ezra to call an assist makes it easier since you can choose FOST to assist. I know it seems complicated, but just remember that Phasma can trigger one assist per turn, but FOST can trigger an assist any time he attacks, counters or taunts.

So based on this, we came up with what we are pretty sure is the maximum amount of attacks possible using Phasma and Zeta FOST.

Okay, apparently the Clone example could only trigger 11 attacks, since Echo only assists on basics, but I did some theory crafting on the FO chat, and we came up with a squad with the potential for even more assists. Credit to @Jay_1997_ for the idea to use GK.

Phasma lead, with GK, FOST, FOTP and Leia

GK does Lead the Charge, calling all 5 toons, with double attack from FOTP and triple from Leia which gives us 8.
This procs FOST's zeta, calling Leia for 3, bringing it to 11.
Phasma lead also procs off of GK, calling FOST again for 1 more to make 12, and this procs FOST's zeta AGAIN, and he calls Leia for another 3, for a total of 15 attacks.

Yes, FOST can be triggered twice. This particular would never happen of course, but it is possible.