Follow up Mother Talzin

"WhackyFishi;c-1324203" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1324195" wrote:

"Gawejn;c-1324190" wrote:

"Goober1_;c-1322731" wrote:
People, talzin does not need the stars.
Night sisters are very strong.
You can 7* daka,ventress,acolyte
4* talzin and possibly zombie.
I'm gearing sisters now. Been super easy up to g10.
Fast potency mods and they will take over the meta.

And than very fast imperial troopers will rise to destroy NS in arena. NS will not be able to win on offense.

I’m not at all convinced of this. Not all nightsister squads need to be based around dying.

They do die rather fast though, without the reviving mechanic I don't see them being able to challenge the meta teams or even chaze-wiggs teams very easily

And it's already proven that troopers under veers destroy the nightsisters even on defence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptIhiTbVLTk&t=572s

I’ve watched those videos, and there are several major problems. The biggest is modding. The NS team is severely outmoded. Factoring in lead bonuses, a 150 Speed Thrawn is going before a 166 Speed Talzin, 177 Speed Acolyte, 152 Speed Talzin, 150 Speed Zombie, and 160 Speed Yoda. If every character was modded with the same speed, that would mean the ENTIRE opposing team might go before the Imperial team (depending on who won the coin flip between Zombie and Thrawn).

Here’s how that alone changes things. Now Acolyte puts a plague on Shore. Daka has a high chance to stun shore, and maybe one other. Then Yoda can buff MT, who is called to assist and puts a 2nd plague on shore. Then Talzin attacks and does a high damage AOE that puts 2 more plagues on Shore.

Now things are massively changed, and imperials have a decision to make with Thrawn (who has given plague to 1 more ally now with his turn). If they give TM to Death Trooper so he can dispel Zombie so you can Fracture MT then it means Shore is still stunned and can’t help clear plague, and that would be a problem (because gaining rapid TM is a terrible idea if you have lots of plague).

Speaking of clearing plague, that’s now become more of an issue. Shore has now already taken 40% health damage from plague + damage from Talzins buffed AOE damage (which has nearly a 7k base. For perspective, that is more than Landon’s AOE it’s 2nd time through!). He’s under half health (Talzin just gained TM). He won’t clear plague from himself, and depending on who else has been granted random plagues and if Talzins AOE crit or not, he likely won’t clear plague from a few others as well.

With no other ways to gain health on that team, Shoretrooper is done taunting/healing. He’s not surviving 2 more turns. So from here on out plague is going to build up on the entire team. Even if imperials get into that crazy TM cycle with the revives then it will become a race against the clock to see if they can eliminate NS before Plague wipes them out.

Now, I’m not saying Imperials can’t beat NS. I think they would be better under a Thrawn lead there anyways, where they gain TM with plague too and sacrifice offense/Speed.

All I’m saying is 2 things 1) that video is a terrible representation of nightsisters and 2) controlling plague is going to take some thought, and we all know the AI sucks at making decisions. So I have confidence NS will be able to take down absolutely anyone on offense.