Yeah it is. My team gained victory and TM so they should keep it. Force close and airplane mode is pure cheating. Remove that.

Why is there an option to retreat then?

Ethics aside, how do you intend to remove that? You know, the moment you interrupt connection you won't send battle data. Unless you propose a save every 1-5 seconds, which is excessive both for your device and the servers.

"VonZant;c-1955616" wrote:"TVF;c-1955581" wrote:Why is there an option to retreat then?I would guess that button was implemented long before TW and GA were released and was intended for Galactic War and perhaps raids. The teams are AI controlled. I see no reason not to give them this successful defense reward.Because as stated above, a signal loss or app crash would also result in TM load, when it's no fault of the user (usually).TM loading is a pretty big penalty to begin with, when you think about it. And in fact, there's strategy involved in deciding when to post a result and when to not post it.Finally, the devs have never said anything about it. No different than shard chats.

"taquillasun;c-1955624" wrote:"Rake6;d-213178" wrote:Yeah it is. My team gained victory and TM so they should keep it. Force close and airplane mode is pure cheating. Remove that.I believe that when you force quit, you lose the round and the players used. I have no problem if someone wants to concede 15 points.The Airplane mode is lame. That's borderline because if I'm not mistaken, you don't get an L and you retain the squad.This is wrong. You do get an L and you do lose the squad. Which is why I see no problem with it.

"VonZant;c-1955627" wrote:"TVF;c-1955618" wrote:"VonZant;c-1955616" wrote:"TVF;c-1955581" wrote:Why is there an option to retreat then?I would guess that button was implemented long before TW and GA were released and was intended for Galactic War and perhaps raids. The teams are AI controlled. I see no reason not to give them this successful defense reward.Because as stated above, a signal loss or app crash would also result in TM load, when it's no fault of the user (usually).TM loading is a pretty big penalty to begin with, when you think about it. And in fact, there's strategy involved in deciding when to post a result and when to not post it.Finally, the devs have never said anything about it. No different than shard chats.You can split crash from airplane mode and/or retreat. If it was intended to be in game they would have a "fight for no negative consequences" button.I dont belive its cheating because the game allows it. But it penalizes strong defensive teams because you can "test" as much as you want against them. You lose banners from both the first and second battles if you do this. That seems like enough of a penalty to me.

Force quit and airplane mode is cheating.

BobcatSkywalker
6 years ago
"Rake6;d-213178" wrote:
Yeah it is. My team gained victory and TM so they should keep it. Force close and airplane mode is pure cheating. Remove that.

You get to keep the victory and the bonus points from having a successful defense.

How is it cheating to lose a battle and get nothing for your efforts, except losing the characters used and losing the bonus points... airplane or force close or even pressing that shiny retreat button will prevent stacked TM.

So your argument is essentially just to remove the retreat button because you want your team to be stacked with turn meter.

Maybe if you spent more time farming mods and less time mis labeling cheating as pressing a button in the game that you dont like then you wouldn't need to rely on stacked tm to win battles.
Rxkehell
6 years ago
Yes you should cuz you were the master strategist and not him!
austin09370
6 years ago
"Rake6;c-1955762" wrote:
Yes you should cuz you were the master strategist and not him!

That's just poor game design.
HermeticOath
6 years ago
"Rake6;d-213178" wrote:
Yeah it is. My team gained victory and TM so they should keep it. Force close and airplane mode is pure cheating. Remove that.

Baaahaaahaaahaaahaaa
Waquira
6 years ago
"Rake6;c-1955760" wrote:
Ok its not cheating its exploit. This TM my team won fairly is now taken away cuz someone used exploit. If they don't take away my tm it would be hell for them. I get penalty for setting good defense cuz of this exploit. Remove it!

It's not an exploit either, so feel free to keep doing it.

How are you penalized?
And how do you suggest to prevent it from happening?
MightyWizard134
6 years ago
Valid points all around, really. Thing is however that this game and games like it runs on server hand-shakes. Only way to get around people closing their apps to avoid TM preload would be near draconian restrictions, like mentioned by VonZant.

Really though, a preloaded enemy team can be both a boom and a curse. Going against JKR, preloaded TM can often be a good thing, as essential cooldowns will often be spent. Going up against a preloaded DR or NS squad however and it's not a good thing any more. In my guild, players are encouraged to force-close their apps if necessary, but it's by no means a requirement. Instead, we all try to choose our battles very carefully so as to maximize efficiency. It's the single best approach, and I can only remember 2 or possibly 3 TW losses out of countless.
Rxkehell
6 years ago
Hellz yeah Vonzant! Exactly what I was trying to say.
DVZR
6 years ago
"Fanatic;c-1956102" wrote:
"VonZant;c-1956082" wrote:

Also the preloaded TM advantage is not what people make it out to be. In the second match cool downs are blown and turn order is messed up. By the 3rd match its a complete wreck. Restetting to fresh starts the defensive team back at its most optimal state.

Said like someone who has never had to deal with a full G13 DR/Malak arena team with TM preloaded.

Said like somone that knows nothing about me.

Yes, I have and so has both my old and my new guild. And I beat them before I had Malak. DR without insanity or fear cooldowns at the start of a match = a dead DR team.
DVZR
6 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-1956103" wrote:
Just build it into the game to increase the QoL for those who are using it (no more restarting the game) and the fairness for those who don’t understand it. Add a message after every defeat in GA/TW/GW and every raid attempt (along with the score you achieved) asking if you want to accept the battle. Give the option to turn it off for those who are annoyed by it.

This would not be my favorite option but would be an ok compromise. Just make the playing field equal. Everyone gets the same in game options.
RSithLord
6 years ago
"VonZant;c-1956111" wrote:
"Bulldog1205;c-1956103" wrote:
Just build it into the game to increase the QoL for those who are using it (no more restarting the game) and the fairness for those who don’t understand it. Add a message after every defeat in GA/TW/GW and every raid attempt (along with the score you achieved) asking if you want to accept the battle. Give the option to turn it off for those who are annoyed by it.

This would not be my favorite option but would be an ok compromise. Just make the playing field equal. Everyone gets the same in game options.

How about everyone getting the same options in general. Just because you can't be bothered to invest the great effort of restarting the game every once in a while doesn't mean that noone should.