Fracture, Isolate, Marked with CBM

"StarSon;c-1812314" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1812299" wrote:

"StarSon;d-198926" wrote:
So, trying to break this out from the megas, since stuff gets buried there, but is there any information about how Corrupted Battle Meditation interacts with these debuffs in particular?

BSF's new unique says (when under a DR lead)

enemies inflicted with Corrupted Battle Meditation can't inflict debuffs on enemies when they use an ability (excludes Raid Bosses)

Fracture, Isolate, JKR's Marked, RJT's Healing Immunity... these are all locked buffs that cannot be evaded or resisted. But will CBM prevent them?

Edit: decided to bring this here after seeing someone else ask on reddit

Yes, the battle corrupted toon will not be able to output a debuff when they use an ability.

Interesting. Is there a dev confirmation coming?

I believe so, but if I can find it I will work on that.

It's not a power creep, it's a power leap. Observe:

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1812337" wrote:

"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:

Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.

Of course there would be. But it's not even Revan breaking them. It's a 3* marquee toon.

Sure, except if you only have her at 3*, then you don't have Darth Revan, and CBM only behaves that way under his leader ability.

"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:

Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.

People always complain about this, but the fact of the matter is that at a certain point, power creep becomes unavoidable. Keeping the game interesting means making it more complex, and you can't introduce more complex kits without eventually creating synergies that mean old ones get left in the dust. That's why they do reworks, to keep (some of) the older stuff somewhat relevant.

Additionally, they need to drive purchases to make money, and there wouldn't be much incentive to spend for a new character if there were already a dozen characters that do the same thing with slight variations.

"Jarvind;c-1812348" wrote:

"StarSon;c-1812335" wrote:

Did you think there wouldn't be? They have openly admitted to power creep. It is what they have chosen instead of constantly balancing everything.

People always complain about this, but the fact of the matter is that at a certain point, power creep becomes unavoidable. Keeping the game interesting means making it more complex, and you can't introduce more complex kits without eventually creating synergies that mean old ones get left in the dust. That's why they do reworks, to keep (some of) the older stuff somewhat relevant.

Additionally, they need to drive purchases to make money, and there wouldn't be much incentive to spend for a new character if there were already a dozen characters that do the same thing with slight variations.

Creep is fine, taking massive leaps over the heads of previous power leaps just leads to many useless toons and people feel like they don't get to use their investments anymore except in PvE content, hence the emergence of GA for those that like to use all their toons in a PvP setting, but then that's still dominated based on whether or not you have the top team available and whether or not your opponents are bothering to try.

"Ultra;c-1812513" wrote:
Fracture, Isolate etc. cannot be resisted so I assume you can apply it through CBM.

The toon is not resisting it, they toon trying to apply it is being "blocked" from doing so.

"TheRealNickEZ;c-1812515" wrote:
Guess we’ll know on Monday...

Trying to push for some responses out today.

To me, this is a new tier in the hierarchy.

Can't Inflict > Can't Resist > Tenacity Down > Tenacity Up > Potency Up/Down and how the game and stats used to work

"Turvantus;c-1812234" wrote:
You forgot “Can’t Evade”.

Can't evade just means they'll get hit, it has nothing to do with the application of a debuff.

But I think "Immune" needs to be first.

You just know before long we'll have abilities that "Pierce Immunity" and "Cannot be Prevented" to get around Darth Revan and Bastila Shan (Fallen).

"StarSon;d-198926" wrote:
So, trying to break this out from the megas, since stuff gets buried there, but is there any information about how Corrupted Battle Meditation interacts with these debuffs in particular?

BSF's new unique says (when under a DR lead)

enemies inflicted with Corrupted Battle Meditation can't inflict debuffs on enemies when they use an ability (excludes Raid Bosses)

Fracture, Isolate, JKR's Marked, RJT's Healing Immunity... these are all locked buffs that cannot be evaded or resisted. But will CBM prevent them?

Edit: decided to bring this here after seeing someone else ask on reddit

Yes, the battle corrupted toon will not be able to output a debuff when they use an ability.