Is Han’s Shoot First wai? It says it’s a bonus turn, so it makes sense that in places like TW, GAC, and GW any preloaded TM should still be there. Here are three sequential images from GW:1. The first shows his TM at the end of a battle which GAS finishes on his turn.2. The next is his bonus turn at the beginning of the next battle. 3. The third shows his TM right after that. The other toons’ turn meters stay the same from image 1 to 2 and then advance after Han takes his bonus, but his seems to reset after his bonus.

What I see there looks correct. from image 2->3:Han gets 100% TM, takes his turn, which sets him to 0 and starts the natural gain of TM which gets to vader and everyone being at the state they are in. to clarify - his ability doesn't give him a bonus turn (like we are seeing with GAS), it gives him 100% TM, regardless of his previous amount of TM. After his turn everything happens like normal with natural TM gain.

Except the text clearly states it's a bonus turn.

"Dinglord;c-2087820" wrote:If a “bonus turn” is meant to mean 100% turn meter, it should read “gains 100% turn meter.” Other TM effects specify that. A bonus turn means “additional, extra, on top of.” It’s not related to the next turn he would take. It shouldn’t affect his turn meter for the non-bonus turn. Maybe it’s wai; it’s definitely written-as-insensible. if it were written as "Gains 100% TM" it wouldn't be a bonus turn and could thus be prevented by characters that shut down TM gain.

"Dinglord;c-2087816" wrote:"Mephisto_style;c-2087809" wrote:If you do a search of the forums there is a 2 to 4 year-old discussion about bonus turn, 100% TM, significance and 1 of the moderators chiming in.Link?If you do a search....

"Waqui;c-2088015" wrote:"chionophile;c-2087808" wrote:"mellamoroberto;c-2087791" wrote:Except the text clearly states it's a bonus turn.The only real difference between 100% TM and a bonus turn is that a bonus turn takes priority. That's not true unfortunately. If some other character is preloaded with 100% TM the usual coin flip takes place. Han is not guaranteed to move first on his bonus turn.I thought they fixed that. I'm pretty sure that used to be true in, say, the smugglers event or the assault battle, but it isn't anymore - Han always takes priority.

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NyKynoe
5 years ago
What I see there looks correct. from image 2->3:

Han gets 100% TM, takes his turn, which sets him to 0 and starts the natural gain of TM which gets to vader and everyone being at the state they are in.

to clarify - his ability doesn't give him a bonus turn (like we are seeing with GAS), it gives him 100% TM, regardless of his previous amount of TM. After his turn everything happens like normal with natural TM gain.
vegenigma
5 years ago
Except the text clearly states it's a bonus turn.
littlemac2014
5 years ago
"Dinglord;c-2087820" wrote:
If a “bonus turn” is meant to mean 100% turn meter, it should read “gains 100% turn meter.” Other TM effects specify that. A bonus turn means “additional, extra, on top of.” It’s not related to the next turn he would take. It shouldn’t affect his turn meter for the non-bonus turn. Maybe it’s wai; it’s definitely written-as-insensible.

if it were written as "Gains 100% TM" it wouldn't be a bonus turn and could thus be prevented by characters that shut down TM gain.
Waquira
5 years ago
"Dinglord;c-2087816" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2087809" wrote:
If you do a search of the forums there is a 2 to 4 year-old discussion about bonus turn, 100% TM, significance and 1 of the moderators chiming in.

Link?

If you do a search....
chionophobe
5 years ago
"Waqui;c-2088015" wrote:
"chionophile;c-2087808" wrote:
"mellamoroberto;c-2087791" wrote:
Except the text clearly states it's a bonus turn.

The only real difference between 100% TM and a bonus turn is that a bonus turn takes priority.

That's not true unfortunately. If some other character is preloaded with 100% TM the usual coin flip takes place. Han is not guaranteed to move first on his bonus turn.

I thought they fixed that. I'm pretty sure that used to be true in, say, the smugglers event or the assault battle, but it isn't anymore - Han always takes priority.
chionophobe
5 years ago
"mellamoroberto;c-2087791" wrote:
Except the text clearly states it's a bonus turn.

The only real difference between 100% TM and a bonus turn is that a bonus turn takes priority. Han got his bonus turn, then went back to 0% TM like normal. WAI.
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
If you do a search of the forums there is a 2 to 4 year-old discussion about bonus turn, 100% TM, significance and 1 of the moderators chiming in.
ocsquatch
5 years ago
"Mephisto_style;c-2087809" wrote:
If you do a search of the forums there is a 2 to 4 year-old discussion about bonus turn, 100% TM, significance and 1 of the moderators chiming in.

Link?
ocsquatch
5 years ago
If a “bonus turn” is meant to mean 100% turn meter, it should read “gains 100% turn meter.” Other TM effects specify that. A bonus turn means “additional, extra, on top of.” It’s not related to the next turn he would take. It shouldn’t affect his turn meter for the non-bonus turn. Maybe it’s wai; it’s definitely written-as-insensible.
ocsquatch
5 years ago
Yup. Which means it’s not related to the existing TM. It’s a “bonus turn” and therefore should not affect the next/existing turn, which in this case should happen almost immediately.

Here’s a related question. If Han is the fastest toon in the entire battle (no, I’ve never seen this be the case), does he go before any other toon after his bonus turn?