Hard counter teams

"Bulldog1205;c-1867089" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-1867040" wrote:

"Tryxa;c-1867018" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1866994" wrote:
NS isn't a hard counter to CLS anymore. That boat sailed with Chewbacca.

Edit: and yes, I get what you're saying, I just have no comment.

O.o Even with 3po NS gobbles up CLS the vast majority of the time if geared/modded properly. It continues to amaze me that people think CLS is good on defense.

People think that?

Are we talking arena or GA/TW? Because probably my best performing defense to date in GA/TW is CLS/Han/Chewie/Bistan/Old Ben. I think people underrate it. Bistan with Chewie combines Frenzy and Guard which is incredible, and Old Ben continues to be one of the most versatile, underrated characters in the game IMO.

If we are talking arena defense then yeah, CLS is simply outdated.

I was thinking of arena, personally. For TW I agree, having an underrated squad is pure gold. For me, my Quira squad gets them every time.

"chionophile;c-1866994" wrote:
NS isn't a hard counter to CLS anymore. That boat sailed with Chewbacca.

Edit: and yes, I get what you're saying, I just have no comment.

NS is such an amazing counter to CLS. 3 zetas NS can take out 10 zetas CLS. i dont even know what you talking about.
use MT L, you have 2 revives and then, well, much more. focus hard on chewie, and its super easy. they have nothing vs plague, and the revives from zombie make the opening salvo... redundant.

@H_B0MBZ im adding 2 pictures. Those pictures show some 'counters' but lot of them need the further explanation or you'll fail vs it :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458006234579337220/580668076442255361/Screenshot_2019-05-19-15-18-44-583_com.discord.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458006234579337220/580668077096828928/IMG_20190519_151907.jpg

example of stuff that need the explanations so it'll work for you- pretty much everything listed vs dRevan. NS, BH... so this TL;DR list is after you familiar with the counters, strategy, how it works, modding, and such.

Some of that stuff on the list makes me chuckle....NS and jango bh counter DR? Lol they dont even get a turn

"Tryxa;c-1867018" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1866994" wrote:
NS isn't a hard counter to CLS anymore. That boat sailed with Chewbacca.

Edit: and yes, I get what you're saying, I just have no comment.

O.o Even with 3po NS gobbles up CLS the vast majority of the time if geared/modded properly. It continues to amaze me that people think CLS is good on defense.

Who’s talking about cls on defence. We’re talking about counters. No teams going to be able to hold on defence. The most important factor in what you’re talking about is that the a1 is using luke , not a person. A player controlled luke team will kill nightsisters. That’s true for almost every “ counter team “ the real factor is user vs Ai

"Kokie;c-1867273" wrote:
Some of that stuff on the list makes me chuckle....NS and jango bh counter DR? Lol they dont even get a turn

That's very interesting. What's the line up? Also is it rng dependent at all? Mod dependent?

"H_B0MBZ;c-1867331" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1867273" wrote:
Some of that stuff on the list makes me chuckle....NS and jango bh counter DR? Lol they dont even get a turn

That's very interesting. What's the line up? Also is it rng dependent at all? Mod dependent?

But.....they said it doesn't counter DR....

"Kokie;c-1867273" wrote:
Some of that stuff on the list makes me chuckle....NS and jango bh counter DR? Lol they dont even get a turn

and this is exactly why i said THOSE are the examples to "you need to see the explanation so it will work".

your lack of faith and knowledge about this teams make me chuckle :)
Jango himself have 4+ more base speed than DR, and also 30+ speed from his L. making him 34 speed faster than DR BEFORE modding. "not getting turns"? is this a joke ?
before you chuckle on my list, l2p. =]
and @H_B0MBZ as said, those need explanations. watch videos etc. very easy to find as well. the team comp is Jango, Boba, Bossk, Dengar, Nest/Zam. you activate the contract asap, use boba execute, and the main strat is having Jango eating attacks with deathmark, as he cant die.
all team will have revive, and they have the damage output to kill DR teams - especially because Jango and Boba damage is off the roof when lot of debuffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQpoX02aCs

To be fair, if the statement was "they don't even get a turn" then it's really mod dependent....

its not mod dependent if it can work with WORSE mods. and it is. as said, jango is 34+ faster than DR before modding. its really hard to not get a turn with them.
also, @Kokie not offense or something of course. just the 'chuckle' thing is annoying thing to say if you dont even suggest anything better.
but be honest with yourself. if you think so badly about these teams that they cant beat DR, you need to recheck, and you have stuff to learn about them.
also, there's this epic stuff, of Urzatron losing to BH on offense with his DR malak. not that it make my point stronger (cause all im saying is that BH can beat DR when modded *PROPERLY*), but mainly because its funny, and its underestimate of the B tier teams, that can be really good if you know what you doing. the video of funny lose : https://youtu.be/HuHQLtV6d-0?t=3872

Never had any issues destroying IMP troopers with my NS myself. The only team that took a little thinking was the ep/Sith teams for NS. (But this all heavily mod dependent)