How bad does CLS team look now?

And wampas coming to arena soon too with AOE daze. CLS lead, at least, is a dying bread.

Some people are saying Darth Vader rework will include AOE daze too, like it did in R2 mythic event

yes forgot to mention wampa as well. but wampa has no synergy while holdo has a lot of synergy & foresight (another weakness of cls)

I reckon cls has been demoted from top tier everything toon to second tier arena toon and top tier raid/guild toon.

That’s not right in my opinion, how hard we had to work for him and now he’s not good anymore

Confusion...

Haven't we had an aoe daze on maul for... forever now?

"t0neg0d;c-1440466" wrote:

"DarthDuck;c-1440448" wrote:
That’s not right in my opinion, how hard we had to work for him and now he’s not good anymore

Cls was the easiest character to get... ever. /boggle

No it is not. and the topic of my thread is nowhere near that.

"t0neg0d;c-1440479" wrote:

"Anakin_Skywalker;c-1440462" wrote:

"t0neg0d;c-1440449" wrote:
Confusion...

Haven't we had an aoe daze on maul for... forever now?

Point is not just AOE daze. Single ability can be easily handled with any sort of cleanse. The poimt's about Resistance getting an AOE daze on the table.
By Resistance we mean they can reduce cooldown very efficiently. And they are hard to be hit due to already existing synergy between them

I'm confused now... this isn't what the original post was asking/stating... what is it you are actually trying to get at?

Op: is cls any good now?
This post: holdo is OP.

Which is it? Kinda hard to try and answer you otherwise.

So can any cls lead teams beat maxed out Jedi rey, bb8, r2, gk, holdo team? on offense?

Yeah the last sentence of the original post is my question

"t0neg0d;c-1440490" wrote:
Are you relying completely on counters to win it now? If so, the answer is no. If not, the the answer is yes... but it'll be a little harder now

Daze also affects bonus turnmeter . And assists
Not just prevents counters

"Jovana_Milo;c-1440534" wrote:

"t0neg0d;c-1440506" wrote:

"Jovana_Milo;c-1440495" wrote:

"t0neg0d;c-1440490" wrote:
Are you relying completely on counters to win it now? If so, the answer is no. If not, the the answer is yes... but it'll be a little harder now

Daze also affects bonus turnmeter . And assists
Not just prevents counters

Yep... and how much good was that 5% TM gain on resisting a detrimental effect doing against that Rey team to begin w/?

Assist is a dif story... but I don't think the OP stated his cls squad setup... so who knows.

I have been using Ezra to help against foresight, with the double attacks and assist and bonus turnmeter. Daze destroys Ezra's usefulness.

AOE daze also diminishes hermit yoda teams' value

Fair point. Daze shuts down han solo's double shot basic too. It also reduces the utility of combat analysis zeta.

"Anakin_Skywalker;c-1440544" wrote:

"Mobewan;c-1440540" wrote:

"Anakin_Skywalker;c-1440501" wrote:

"Mobewan;c-1440492" wrote:
We have a g12 holdo on a jtr team on our shard.
That guy is using chopper.
It's an easy win for everyone so far

I assume that's because one can fracture Holdo and focus on one by one?

@Anakin_Skywalker there are several ways to deal with holdo, depending on who the 5th slot is.

When she taunts, she can either be 1) stunned 2) fractured 3) buff immunity 4) killed

Thanks. One thing seems certain for me. Thrawn is needed in the CLS lead team to beat the Jedi Rey GK Holdo team. With Thrawn I can fracture GK or Holde. I speculate it should be better used on Holdo, to shut down the foresight synergy.

Problem is GK. W/o fracture, buff immunity can be easily cleansed by GK. So problem is I am forced to struggle to take down GK, while enemy R2/Jrey/BB8 do their things.

I wonder if CLS GK Thrawn Han R2 team can deal with GK quick enough. and after that we still got the all 4 resistance left.

@Anakin_Skywalker i really prefer to save the fracture for Rey, but your GK has to be fast to get off lead the charge. To do that, you need r2 to uncloak on himself or on CLS (if he has learn control zeta).

Here is a demonstration against one of the best JTR teams on my shard.
https://youtu.be/JIehR1RvMaA