How to counter Phoenix teams?

"CoastalJames;c-1532480" wrote:
Simple - whack Ezra and they've got nothing else to hit you with. Whack Ezra then clean up.

Hera and her backup plan has to go first :wink:

"Rufjanski;c-1532874" wrote:

"CoastalJames;c-1532480" wrote:
Simple - whack Ezra and they've got nothing else to hit you with. Whack Ezra then clean up.

Hera and her backup plan has to go first :wink:

My plan works for me :)

Take away their only offence and I'm happy to grind them down into the dirt even if it takes 10 minutes.

"CoastalJames;c-1532889" wrote:

"Rufjanski;c-1532874" wrote:

"CoastalJames;c-1532480" wrote:
Simple - whack Ezra and they've got nothing else to hit you with. Whack Ezra then clean up.

Hera and her backup plan has to go first :wink:

My plan works for me :)

Take away their only offence and I'm happy to grind them down into the dirt even if it takes 10 minutes.

Except for the arena timeout at 5 minutes. Ezra does need to be one of the first gone, but I'd go after chopper first.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1532899" wrote:
Except for the arena timeout at 5 minutes.

Figure of speech old boy, figure of speech :smile:

Though back when I ran Phoenix, when it was Phoenix-versus-Phoenix, I'd take out their damage dealer and slowly be winning the fight, but go out by time-out! That was frustrating.

I've only seen two teams that can efficiently kill Phoenix teams at the high end (g12 with actual proper mods- most ppl don't even come close to modding them effectively). First is palp lead with vader and tarkin, but my 230 speed guys can usually overtake them if vader dies fast, sabine's mass stagger leaves only vader able to fight back. Second is JTR, only if very well modded also. Trick is to kill Kannan, otherwise they all regain 25% health per debut and can counter, which combined with his zeta means they won't die until he does. Sabine can wipe a whole team in two turns if she's build properly also, or put are stagger & expose on the whole team and they can kill multiple toons before you even get a turn.

@Gannon is Sabine zeta that good? Im considering that or Kanan first. My Kanan is pretty tough already. I know his zeta is good but as offense is usually their issue I thought Sabine first.

It's arguably the best Phoenix zeta, only rivaled by Kanan's. It hits hard and spreads a lot of useful debuffs, and severely cuts the cooldown.

I'm still waiting for the bug with it to be fixed in game. They flagged it awhile back, but hasn't been patched yet to my knowledge. (the ai doesn't use demolish) Once that happens tho, It's going to be a lot harder to take them down in arena, I imagine. =)

"VonZant;c-1532952" wrote:
@Gannon is Sabine zeta that good? Im considering that or Kanan first. My Kanan is pretty tough already. I know his zeta is good but as offense is usually their issue I thought Sabine first.

Sabine is like having Zam on a hunter line. First turn she can pop demolish, then you poke each guy and the stagger drops the tm back to zero. If you're lucky you can use demolish again before they get any turns. I've gone whole battles in arena where the enemy never hits, just like with Zam. The ai can't think that much tho lol